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(From below) Contrary to popular left wing belief, Native Americans were okay with Redskins nickname

Author: MarkHarman (7373 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:12 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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But white liberals were enraged, apparently.

Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/new-poll-finds-9-in-10-native-americans-arent-offended-by-redskins-name/2016/05/18/3ea11cfa-161a-11e6-924d-838753295f9a_story.html

Replies to: (From below) Contrary to popular left wing belief, Native Americans were okay with Redskins nickname


Thread Level: 2

Best to expunge our guilt by eliminating any reference to these folks.

Author: Curly1918 (16697 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 1:28 am on Jul 22, 2025
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Denial is the universal human defense mechanism for repressing disagreeable anxieties.

Thread Level: 2

Totally stupid thing to be fixated on…just like changing the names of…

Author: Domer From Hell (16877 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:09 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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military installations. I never called Ft Bragg, Ft Liberty. Just stupid all around, imo.

We're all born bald baby!
Thread Level: 3

Do you support changing the name of Ft. Bragg back to Ft. Bragg like Trump did?

Author: NedoftheHill (44963 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:15 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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Or should he have left it Ft. Liberty, the name the Biden handlers chose for it?

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 4

Based on Braxton Bragg's history, the name change was LONG overdue...can't imagine self-respecting

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:00 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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military personnel choosing him for that NC base...had to be local pols.

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braxton_Bragg

Thread Level: 5

It’s not your imagination…a lot of soldiers and veterans called Ft Bragg by its name…

Author: Domer From Hell (16877 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:17 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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And frankly, nobody that I served with paid attention who Ft Bragg was named after. Totally stupid to rename a military installation to make people that didn’t serve feel better.

We're all born bald baby!
Thread Level: 4

It has always been Ft Bragg to me and all of my brothers…same with…

Author: Domer From Hell (16877 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:22 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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Ft Benning and the others.

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Thread Level: 5

I figured that’s how soldiers would feel about it.They never should have changed those names in the

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:23 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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first place.

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Thread Level: 6

Those names have secondary meaning now.

Author: NedoftheHill (44963 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 1:24 am on Jul 23, 2025
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The original names were selected as an effort to facilitate reunification after the Civil War, not to support slavery. I know the Left doesn't like the fact that we reunified, and still wants to punish people today for sins of the nation from 160 year ago. They probably also hate that President Grant asked for half confederate veterans, half Union veterans to carry his casket as well. God forbid we come together in this nation. Separation is fuel for their political engine, after all.

But, now, names like Ft. Benning, Ft. Bragg, etc. have secondary meaning. You say Ft. Bragg to a soldier, and he thinks 82nd Airborne, special operations, etc. You say Ft. Benning, and he thinks of the infantry school (and more recently, armor), airborne training, rangers, and the like. Ft. Hood is the 1st Cavalry. Hardly anyone was aware of the sources of the 150 year old names until the Democrat culture warriors were looking for some virtue signals they could send. They like to use the military that way when they get control of the presidency. And even then, to portray those names as standing for anything other than an attempt to rebuild a unified Republic is misleading.


Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 6

Agree 100%. Total waste of time and money. It cost over 20 million to do that shit

Author: Domer From Hell (16877 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:28 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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We're all born bald baby!
Thread Level: 2

From your article...

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 8:48 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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The term "Redskins" was never intended to 'Honor' Native Americans...and 'Tomahawk Chops' are just as repugnant. Time for a bunch of Non-Native Americans to grow up and start showing respect for this long abused race of fellow Americans.

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Anita Whitworth, 62, also belongs to the confederation. A mother of five who worked for years as a chemical-dependency counselor, she hates the name.

She views it much the same way that many activists do. They argue that the central problems ravaging native communities — poverty, violence and addiction — can only be fixed if young people take pride in who they are.

Her youngest, Whitworth said, is a dark-skinned 13-year-old who attends an almost entirely non-native school in a region long plagued by racial tension.
When she looks at him, Whitworth thinks back to the years of disparagement she’s endured.

She has seen store employees follow her because they suspect she will steal something. She has heard derogatory comments in restaurants.
She has also been called a “Redskin.”

“I don’t want to ever have my son experience anything like that,” she said. “It’s time to change. It’s time to move on.”

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Thread Level: 3

Once again, you're on the wrong side.

Author: MarkHarman (7373 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:25 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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There are more than a few of our American Indian friends who like and prefer the name Redskins. And one anecdotal account doesn't negate the fact that our American Indian friends overwhelmingly had zero problem with the name.

Link: https://www.fox13seattle.com/sports/native-american-group-sues-washington-commanders-over-erasure-of-redskins-identity

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Thread Level: 4

According to your article, there's a chart showing 20+% of Native Americans consider the term

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:39 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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"Redskins" to be "DISRESPECTFUL"...that's not just one anecdotal reference...i.e. a significant segment of that population is not happy about it.

It would have been interesting had the poll asked the question..."Would you rather the Washington Team had selected some name other than 'Redskins'?"...IMHO the results would have resulted in a majority "YES" response.


Thread Level: 5

Changing the name will not change the attitude. Almost everyone who is a football fan considers

Author: THEISMANCARR (17295 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 10:23 am on Jul 22, 2025
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"Redskins" a representation of toughness. Hell I confuse the Commanders and call them the Commodores half the time.

Thread Level: 5

The poll clearly said 90% are not offended. But even if it's 80% that's an overwhelming majority

Author: MarkHarman (7373 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:12 am on Jul 22, 2025
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I thought you lefties were big on democracy. Since when did 20% become more than 80%?

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Thread Level: 5

Insert Jane Fonda Tomahawk GIF

Author: Iggle (12755 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:41 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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Thread Level: 6

Whatever comes to your mind, Iggy...I expect nothing more...

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:45 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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Thread Level: 7

OK Ty. Better luck tomorrow!

Author: Iggle (12755 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:56 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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Thread Level: 3

You think a team called itself something they didn't think was cool?..something they disliked?

Author: NedoftheHill (44963 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:15 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 4

Haven't seen the "Neddy Twist" in awhile ;-)...The Team didn't care if it offended Native Americans,

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:32 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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...they thought it was cool...simple as that.l

Thread Level: 3

She has a baby at 49? Wow.

Author: Iggle (12755 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:08 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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Almost unbelievable.

Thread Level: 4

My wife had our youngest son when she was 46

Author: MarkHarman (7373 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:27 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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Thread Level: 4

Take it up with MarkHarman...it's his article.

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:21 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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Thread Level: 5

Mark, give me your sources in the article you didn't write.

Author: Iggle (12755 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:31 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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Thread Level: 6

Mark chose it...and I'm assuming he read it first...but that's not always the case...nonetheless,

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:41 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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it's his responsibility.

Thread Level: 7

LOL

Author: Iggle (12755 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:44 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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You're off your game these days, Ty.

Understandable I guess, given the shit sandwich you get handed every day by your peeps.


Thread Level: 8

From your lips to God's ear...

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:46 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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Thread Level: 5

Way to miss the point. Dodge.

Author: jakers (14048 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:30 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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Thread Level: 6

I'm not seeing a "point"...help me out here ;-)

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:42 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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Thread Level: 2

Obviously white liberal professors need to tighten their grip on the culture.

Author: NedoftheHill (44963 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 8:15 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 3

Everything has a price. Seminoles has theirs. Everyone's happy. No fake outrage.

Author: ELP (9882 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 9:18 pm on Jul 21, 2025
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