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Obama Legacy: ruined healthcare system, funded Iran nuc weapons program, attempted coup on successor

Author: BaronVonZemo (61215 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:35 am on Jul 24, 2025
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Let’s not forget Russia invading and taking Crimea from Ukraine without any repercussion and an offering to bury that hatchet with the US and start fresh - a chance to “Hit the Reset Button”.

Impressive.

With Biden as his wingman.


Obama wasn’t an incompetent president. He was a hostile president. An anti American president.


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Thread Level: 2

The real reason for Baron's dislike of Obama?...Could it be the ACA's impact on his bottom line?

Author: TyroneIrish (21774 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:44 pm on Jul 24, 2025
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The ACA ushered in the concept of "Value Based Medicine" as opposed to the entrenched, and more costly, "Fee For Service" model which has Americans paying 2X more per capita for HC than any other developed country. While this change definitely benefited patients, it negatively affected some Specialist Physician incomes...including OB/GYNs.

As for BVZ's other claims...Obama got IAEA boots on the ground to VERIFY that Uranium enrichment did not exceed 5% (We now see what Trump's withdrawal from the JCPOA has wrought...)...and a GOP-led Senate Intelligence Committee produced documented evidence of hundreds of liaisons between the 2016 Trump campaign and Russian Operatives...just more "Doublespeak" from Baron.

Here's a summary of "VBM" and "FFS"...
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AI Overview

Value-based medicine is a healthcare delivery model where providers are compensated based on the quality of patient outcomes, rather than the quantity of services provided. It shifts the focus from simply treating illnesses to improving overall patient health and well-being, while also managing costs effectively.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
Key Principles of Value-Based Medicine:
Patient-Centered Care:
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Value-based care prioritizes the patient's individual needs, preferences, and goals.
Evidence-Based Practices:
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Care is delivered using the latest clinical guidelines and research to ensure effectiveness and efficiency.
Integrated and Coordinated Care:
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Healthcare providers collaborate to deliver comprehensive, coordinated care, minimizing redundancies and errors.
Outcome Measurement:
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Regularly monitoring and evaluating patient outcomes is crucial to identify areas for improvement and make necessary adjustments.
Cost-Effectiveness:
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Value-based care aims to improve health outcomes while also managing healthcare costs effectively.

How it Differs from Traditional Fee-for-Service:
Fee-for-service:
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Providers are paid based on the volume of services they provide, regardless of the outcome.
Value-based care:
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Providers are rewarded for achieving positive patient outcomes, such as improved health, reduced chronic disease, and healthier lifestyles.

Benefits of Value-Based Medicine:

Improved Patient Outcomes:
By focusing on outcomes, value-based care can lead to better health and well-being for patients.

Reduced Healthcare Costs:
By managing costs effectively and focusing on preventive care, value-based care can help control healthcare spending.
Increased Patient Satisfaction:

With a focus on patient-centered care and improved outcomes, value-based care can lead to greater patient satisfaction.
Greater Efficiency:

By coordinating care and using evidence-based practices, value-based care can improve the efficiency of the healthcare system.

Enhanced Provider Satisfaction:
By focusing on outcomes and providing better support, value-based care can also improve provider satisfaction.
Examples of Value-Based Care Models:

Medicare Advantage:
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CMS provides financial incentives for Medicare Advantage plans that achieve high quality performance on a set of clinical and patient experience metrics.
Bundled Payments:
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A single payment covers all services related to a specific episode of care (e.g., hip replacement).
Accountable Care Organizations (ACOs):
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Groups of providers collaborate to manage the care of a specific population and share in any savings generated by improving quality and controlling costs.

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Thread Level: 3

No. Baron is an abortion zealot.

Author: Chris94 (37260 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:07 pm on Jul 24, 2025
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Were it not for the screaming of the zygotes, he might have an entirely different view of politics.

Trump’s supporters are overwhelmingly either abortion monomaniacs or the uneducated.


Thread Level: 4

That mono-issue mania definitely comes across. It amazes me that an OB/GYN like Baron would be

Author: TyroneIrish (21774 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:50 am on Jul 25, 2025
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totally against the long-standing support of a woman's right to decide whether or not to have an abortion that has been expressed by the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists. I'm hard pressed to recall any post of his that empathizes with women who have either been forced or coerced into a pregnancy they never wanted...absolutely NO concern for them at all. It seems in his mind that just because their anatomy enables them to bear children, then they MUST do so...no matter the cause of those pregnancies. Furthermore, he refuses to acknowledge that the Catholic Church has NEVER taught that 'Personhood' begins at conception...proof of that is the fact that there are no 'Rites' for miscarriages...and the whole concept of "Limbo" was dropped decades ago.

Thus far, there has been no reasoning with Baron the Manic Zealot over the Abortion issue...and he'll back ANYONE...even Malignant Narcissist, Felon, Rapist, Fraud, Insurrectionist, Donald J. Trump if they will support his mania. I'm guessing that if Satan himself ran for office on that policy, he'd back him.


Thread Level: 2

But he talked in dulcet tones and didn’t go to Epstein island, so all good.

Author: LanceManion (8584 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 10:03 am on Jul 24, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
Thread Level: 2

The distraction worked perfectly on those eager to be distracted

Author: Chris94 (37260 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:37 am on Jul 24, 2025
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The notion that there was an attempted “coup” is laughable…except Trump will abuse power to pursue it.

It will be sound and fury, picked up by stupid asses across the country, and it will go nowhere.


Thread Level: 3

Liberalism Rule #1 wrt to "distraction" which your Epstein Pee Pee Tape story is to Obama Treason

Author: BaronVonZemo (61215 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:23 pm on Jul 24, 2025
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Thread Level: 2

You give him too much credit. He was just a 60's academic leftist who was "attractive" on the stump.

Author: Curly1918 (16827 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 8:42 am on Jul 24, 2025
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I doubt he cared a whit about geopolitics or who succeeded him... since he was irreplaceable in his own mind.

Thread Level: 3

He is an anti-colonialist. He just hides it better because he's "articulate and clean."

Author: NedoftheHill (45070 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:03 am on Jul 24, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 4

He is not. That’s racist trash.

Author: Chris94 (37260 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:11 am on Jul 24, 2025
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Thread Level: 5

You correctly just called Joe Biden (whom Ned was quoting) racist trash.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61215 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:21 pm on Jul 24, 2025
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No it's not. Ned is quoting JB, You know, the president that was called a racist by his future VP.

Author: Frankx (5625 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 11:32 am on Jul 24, 2025
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Thread Level: 5

No it isn't. Reasonable men may disagree. Obama was certainly influenced by his father.

Author: Hensou (9054 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 11:26 am on Jul 24, 2025
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I view Obama more as an Alinsky disciple. But Obama has stated he was influenced by his father as well.

Your blanket accusation against Ned is uncalled for. Ned is not a racist.


Thread Level: 6

You’re simply wrong. This is an assumption made by dolts because of his skin color.

Author: Chris94 (37260 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:13 pm on Jul 24, 2025
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His foreign policy was realist, not “anti-colonialist.”

I know more about this than you do.


Thread Level: 7

I posited that Obama is an Alinsky disciple and a socialist. That is absolutely correct.

Author: Hensou (9054 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 1:28 pm on Jul 24, 2025
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It is also absolutely correct that Ned is not a racist.

Obama has stated that he was influenced by his anti-colonialist father.

I don't see pure anti-colonialism in his foreign policy as some do.

Calling those people who disagree with you "racist" is your typical tantrum. It makes you look foolish.


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Thread Level: 8

It is also absolutely correct that reasonable people may disagree

Author: Hensou (9054 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 1:59 pm on Jul 24, 2025
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Foreign Policy is a centrist website.

There are a handful of other websites who agree with them.

Go argue with your peers. Call them names.


Link: https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/04/07/obama-was-not-a-realist-president-jeffrey-goldberg-atlantic-obama-doctrine/

Thread Level: 3

He cared greatly about his legacy. He’s got it now. It’s just not good.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61215 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:45 am on Jul 24, 2025
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