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The real reason Trump is attacking Obama, et al, over the Senate Intelligence Committee findings

Author: TyroneIrish (21525 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:22 pm on Jul 24, 2025
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that he had his campaign work with Russians (who wanted him in the White House)...He's Guilty...He Knows It...but DJT is ALL IN on the lessons he learned from Roy Cohn..."Never Admit You're Wrong...Never Apologize...Fight Back...Attack!...Attack!...Attack!". This is all a charade to hold onto his MAGA base, that is eroding, thanks in large measure to his years long dalliance with Jeffrey Epstein...his chickens are coming home to roost.





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Always the case. The real reason those with TDS attack Trump is they feel threatened by his policies

Author: Curly1918 (16713 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:39 am on Jul 25, 2025
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Did you watch the video?…btw, do you like DJT’s “Policy” toward Putin?

Author: TyroneIrish (21525 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:48 am on Jul 25, 2025
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Where do your Ukrainian relatives stand on Trump’s Policies?

You sure know how to equivocate.


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What was the last line of the Senate Intelligence Committee Report?

Author: jakers (14053 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:32 pm on Jul 24, 2025
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They found that Trump’s campaign manager handed internal polling data to Russian operatives,

Author: TyroneIrish (21525 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:23 pm on Jul 24, 2025
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Konstantin Kilimnik, prior to the 2016 election…among hundreds of other interactions between the Trump campaign and Russian operatives…what would you call that?

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I see that your handlers don't want you answering that simple question. I don't blame them.

Author: jakers (14053 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:07 pm on Jul 25, 2025
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I'll ask again...what would you call DJT's campaign manager, Paul Manafort, handing internal

Author: TyroneIrish (21525 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:12 pm on Jul 25, 2025
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polling data to Russian Operative, Konstantin Kilimnik?...or Donald Trump Jr. lying about meeting with Russian attorney, Natalia Veselnitskaya, in Trump Tower for the purpose of getting dirt on Hillary Clinton...and saying in an email that he'd "Love" to get it latter in the summer.

I, and many others call it "Collusion"...what term would you use?


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"I won't answer your relevant question, but you answer my irrelevant one."

Author: jakers (14053 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:13 pm on Jul 25, 2025
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Typical. Coward.

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My answer is that the GOP-led Senate Intelligence Committee laid out all the facts they found...

Author: TyroneIrish (21525 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:52 pm on Jul 25, 2025
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something like 996 pages in Vpl. 5 alone...but their task was not to make a Criminal Finding...that's for the Justice Department...and the term "Collusion", to many, implies another term, such as "Conspiracy" which is extremely difficult to prove in court given the need for identifying the "Conspirators". This is why the "RICO Statute" was created... for cases where "Mob Bosses" get underlings to do all the dirty "Conspiratorial" work and shield themselves from direct involvement...surely, you've heard of those scenarios.

This is one of those "RICO-Like" cases...Trump and Putin knew exactly what Paul Manafort and Konstantin Kilimnik were up to (note: DJT personally signs every check over $10K...like to Michael Cohen for payment to Stormy Daniels).

Not sure if you read my previous post with the "Lawfare" summary attached...they do a better job of explaining that the Senate Intelligence Committee uncovered hundreds of interactions between the Trump Campaign and Russia...that sure "Looked" and "Walked" like Collusions...:-)

From that article...Whether one describes this activity as collusion or not, there’s a lot of it: The report describes hundreds of actions by Trump, his campaign, and his associates in the run-up to the 2016 election that involve some degree of participation by Trump or his associates in Russian activity. In this post

Bottom line...no way on God's green earth that GOP members of that committee are going to use words that incriminate Donald Trump...they just laid out the facts that prove it. Now if one of the names involved was Hunter Biden...you'd spitting out "Collusion!...Collusion!...Collusion!"...all day long...don't deny it.

But just for fun now...shock me and answer my question...What do you call Trump Campaign Manager, Paul Manafort, handing internal polling data to Russian operative, Konstantin Kilimnik prior to the 2016 election?


Link: https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/collusion-reading-diary-what-did-senate-intelligence-committee-find

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I asked you what was their final conclusion. Say it for me.

Author: jakers (14053 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:57 pm on Jul 25, 2025
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Here's a Google AI Summary of the "Collusion" debate...

Author: TyroneIrish (21525 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:26 pm on Jul 25, 2025
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NOTE: The 2020 GOP-led Senate Intelligence Committee was comprised of 8 Republicans and 7 Democrats. The GOP members wrote the Closing Statement...but the Democrats disagreed and believed there was Collusion...as evidenced by the unanimous findings of hundreds of interactions between Trump Campaigners and Russians. So, but for one vote, there would have been a finding of Collusion...based on documented findings...not opinions. You're clinging to Semantics as opposed to Evidence...and as the Committee also found, it creates serious risks for our National Counter Intelligence security. Who's side are you on...America's...or Trump's MAGAs who work with our worst enemy to win an election. Ponder the fact that Putin wanted Trump elected...the man every one of military service members train to fight actually considered it a victory for him to see Trump in the Oval Office.

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AI Overview

The 2020 Senate Intelligence Committee report, despite finding that Paul Manafort, Trump's campaign chairman, shared polling data with Konstantin Kilimnik, identified by the report as a Russian intelligence officer, did not use the term "collusion" to describe the relationship between the Trump campaign and Russia.

The report did not use the term "collusion" for these reasons:

Focus on Criminal Conspiracy: The report, similar to the Mueller Report, focused on whether there was enough evidence to prove a criminal conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russian government to interfere with the election. Although the report found numerous contacts and a willingness by the Trump campaign to engage with Russian efforts to influence the election, it found no evidence to prove a criminal conspiracy beyond a reasonable doubt.

Difficulty in Obtaining Evidence: The report noted that both Manafort and Kilimnik used encrypted communication methods. This made it difficult to understand the nature and purpose of their interactions. Manafort also did not fully cooperate with investigators.

"Grave Counterintelligence Threat": The report emphasized the seriousness of Manafort's actions, even without finding a provable criminal conspiracy. It characterized his interactions with Kilimnik as a "grave counterintelligence threat".

Partisan Interpretations: The report's findings, especially regarding Manafort and Kilimnik, were viewed differently by Democrats and Republicans. Democrats interpreted the evidence as demonstrating collaboration or "collusion." Republicans emphasized the lack of proof for a criminal conspiracy. The Republican appendix to the report explicitly stated, "After more than three years of investigation by this Committee, we can now say with no doubt, there was no collusion," while the Democratic appendix asserted that the report "unambiguously shows that members of the Trump campaign cooperated with Russian efforts to get Trump elected".

In short, the Senate report presented extensive evidence of contacts and interactions between the Trump campaign and individuals with ties to Russian intelligence. It highlighted the counterintelligence risks posed by those interactions. However, the committee did not use the term "collusion." This was due to the legal definition of criminal conspiracy and the challenges in obtaining definitive evidence to support such a charge.

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Do you honestly think for one moment that the hundreds of interactions between the Trump campaign and Russians were totally benign and had nothing to do with getting Trump elected? As a good Catholic boy...please answer honestly.


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What was the final statement of the committee?

Author: jakers (14053 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:34 am on Jul 26, 2025
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Rubio was the chair of that committee. Trump’s campaign cooperated with Moscow.

Author: Chris94 (37132 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:31 pm on Jul 24, 2025
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Trump's false baseless attacks are always his "tell."

Author: conorlarkin (21358 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:27 pm on Jul 24, 2025
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Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/24/us/politics/epstein-files-trump-bondi-justice-department-fbi.html

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