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Amazing like it’s the fault of the guy who reports the stats.

Author: Frank L (64825 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 8:56 pm on Aug 1, 2025
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The Mad King.

Link: https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/01/business/trump-job-report-number-fire?cid=ios_app

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Losing your grip. One stubborn finger at a time.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60464 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:35 am on Aug 2, 2025
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Ms. McEntarfer was confirmed by Senate per 86-8 vote in January 2024.

Author: conorlarkin (21173 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:19 pm on Aug 1, 2025
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Senators Vance and Rubio voted to confirm her.

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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This is really horrible. US economic stats will be lies until at least 2028.

Author: Chris94 (36883 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:55 pm on Aug 1, 2025
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If they make international investors doubt the integrity of the US economic reporting, a global crash will result.

Fucktards are running the show.


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They have been, and we have been saying so.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60464 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:37 am on Aug 2, 2025
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Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=209492

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Indeed.

Author: conorlarkin (21173 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:20 pm on Aug 1, 2025
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On Friday morning the Bureau of Labor Statistics released disappointing jobs numbers. A few hours later, President Trump announced that he was directing the administration to fire the commissioner responsible for this highly respected, nonpartisan agency, widely considered the producer of the best labor market data in the world. This is closer to what one expects from a banana republic than from a major democratic financial center.

Erika McEntarfer, the fired B.L.S. commissioner, is a highly respected economist with extensive experience in the production and analysis of government data. But she does not make policy in the way that someone like Powell does. Nor does the commissioner traditionally even make the particular numbers that the B.L.S. releases. Instead those numbers are produced by the 2,000 nonpartisan career staff members who work in the agency, in this case compiling the survey responses from the more than 100,000 businesses that report their employment to the B.L.S. every month. The numbers are finalized before they get to the commissioner, a political appointee but one who often serves across administrations. The role is much more about managing and overseeing the agency and making long-term decisions.

Trump’s ire was directed at the large revisions to the May and June jobs numbers, which went from a previously reported respectable average of 145,500 new jobs per month to a more concerning 16,500. The revisions were unusually large — the largest since 1979, not counting the pandemic, according to economist Ernie Tedeschi.

But revisions are a normal part of the statistical process and, in fact, one of its strengths in balancing timeliness and accuracy of data. About one-third of the sampled businesses do not return their survey responses on time, so the initial numbers have to make imputations for the missing data. As more survey responses arrive at the B.L.S., the numbers are revised. In addition, the B.L.S. is constantly using an algorithm to do updated seasonal adjustment of its data (e.g., the normal pattern of hiring a lot of retail workers in November and December and laying them off in January); this algorithm was a major factor in the latest revision.

In his post, Trump accused the B.L.S. of having “manipulated for political purposes” the numbers. Not only is that claim far-fetched; it is also internally contradictory. The B.L.S. produced some large downward revisions of jobs numbers under President Joe Biden, too. The revisions were slightly different from these, because the Biden ones were part of an annual revision process using more reliable tax data. But Trump argued then that Biden helped himself by cooking the books by initially reporting high numbers, which were revised downward in August 2024.

Trump alluded to that claim on Friday. In the same post, he argued that the B.L.S. is also hurting him by initially reporting high numbers but then revising them downward. The same action couldn’t have helped Biden and hurt Trump.

And, ironically, the latest revisions strengthen Trump’s arguments for the Fed to restart its rate cuts.

The firing of the B.L.S. commissioner is more senseless than the threat of or actual firing of the Federal Reserve chairman, though not as consequential. But it still matters. Policymakers like the Federal Reserve Board members need reliable data — as do financial markets, including investors lending the United States trillions of dollars to finance our huge budget deficits, and businesses making decisions. Faked data in countries like Greece and Argentina helped enable bad policies and played a role in the economic crises they suffered this century.


Link: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/08/01/opinion/thepoint/bls-commissioner-trump-fire-erika-mcentarfer?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Based on an AI search, no other President has fired a BLS administrator. Also, former Labor Sec'y,

Author: TyroneIrish (20940 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:39 pm on Aug 1, 2025
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Robert Reich, has said that the BLS was considered a non-political "Fortress" of data specialists, always trying to get things right...and for many years, that process led to corrections...but never for political reasons. Unfortunately, DJT is fond of making up numbers...e.g. 5,p. 000 deceased voters in GA, when reality shows only 4. "Truth" is a 'Fungible Commodity' to Donald Trump. This is all a phony 'Reality Show' to him so that he can get 'Huge, Beautiful Ratings' from the only people who are keeping him out of prison...his MAGAs.

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MAGAts can't defend this behavior without spinning to something Dem related

Author: Quest4twelve (6791 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 10:21 pm on Aug 1, 2025
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