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"In absence of direct evidence, Crowdstrike and ThreatConnect will supply the media"

Author: Iggle (12754 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 2:21 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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I bet some of you guys are embarrassed about how completely you were fooled by the Russian Collusion Hoax.

"Hey Chris, why didn't the DNC let the FBI look at the servers?" That's why, Chris.


Link: https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/newly-declassified-appendix-to-durham-report-sheds-additional-light-on-clinton-campaign-plan-to-falsely-tie-trump-to-russia-and-fbis-failure-to-investigate

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The left’s lack of credibility stems from the inability to admit error despite an orgy of evidence

Author: LanceManion (8240 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 6:24 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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It’s why Trump won. The behavior was obvious and all but the most rabid nuts could admit that the left was on the wrong side.

Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Indeed. Smoking gun emails. Rush was right. And Soros was part of it all.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 3:28 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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I think it was probably space aliens.

Author: Chris94 (37107 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:06 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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Rule #14. Also, I thought you trusted the professionals of the IC.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 5:44 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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Rule of Liberalism #14: “ You’ll have to show us a lot more than rock solid, irrefutable evidence to change our minds”.

Emails from the Obama IC specifically describing the Obama IC coup plan which then followed exactly the script outlined and directly implicating Obama, Brennan, Clapper, Comey, and Rice.

You couldn’t be less intellectually honest if you tried. But we all see what you have become…Ty94


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We all know that this is how Chris94 admits he was wrong. Cryptic, but there you go.

Author: NedoftheHill (44952 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 5:34 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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He’ll later say,”Nobody ever said that they didn’t do it…..”

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 5:45 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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" Collusion is a specific crime"

Author: iairishcheeks (28067 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:20 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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The Unanimously accepted Senate Intelligence Committee Report proves Trump/Putin collaboration was..

Author: TyroneIrish (21416 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:44 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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and most probably, still is...very real. The only "Hoax" is the one DJT is desperately trying to maintain. In short, we have a Treasonous President in our White House.

Click on the Lawfare links for details on all the ways Trump worked with Putin to help win the 2016 election.


Link: https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/collusion-reading-diary-what-did-senate-intelligence-committee-find

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What was the concluding statement in that report? Can you answer this time?

Author: jakers (14047 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:46 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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Pure Politics...9 Reps...8 Dems...majority gets to write/edit the Summary. Note that Dems wrote

Author: TyroneIrish (21416 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 8:03 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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a dissenting opinion...based upon the Unanimously Approved FINDINGS. The Senate Report was not part of a DOJ criminal investigation, so there was no way the GOP majority was going to use a word like "Collusion" or "Conspiracy"...even though the voluminous evidence from hundreds of interactions between the campaign and Russia points directly to that conclusion. If you read the material I've provided, you'd know all this.

Now, answer my question...what was the justification for Don Jr. meeting with Russian attorney, Natalia Veselnitskaya, for the expressed purpose (based on actual emails found by the Senate Committee) of getting "Dirt" on Hillary Clinton?...or, Campaign Manager, Paul Manafort, handing internal polling data to Russian Agent, Konstantin Kilimnik...if not to have Russia (Putin) help Trump win the 2016 election?


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Tap out. You're taking a beating.

Author: jakers (14047 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:25 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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Not at all, Jake…I’m the one with the evidence.

Author: TyroneIrish (21416 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:29 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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Apparently you have zero evidence.

Author: jakers (14047 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:38 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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Like everyone else on your side.

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I've previously provided a link to "Lawfare's" assessment of the Senate Intelligence Committee

Author: TyroneIrish (21416 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:16 pm on Aug 2, 2025
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report...where it reviews all of the 996 pages of Vol 5 dealing with findings of Trump campaign connections with Russian agents...

Here's the "Conclusion" section commentary on the "No Collusion" majority statement...
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Conclusion


One of the clever features of the Senate Intelligence Committee’s report is the committee’s apparent decision to draw no conclusions, merely to recount facts. This allowed the entire committee, irrespective of party or fealty to the president, to join in the factual findings. Even Sen. Jim Risch of Idaho, who opposed the committee’s formal adoption of the report, did so not because he objected to any of the findings the committee made but because he objected to its failure to find explicitly that there was “no collusion”: “[T]he Senate Intelligence Committee’s bipartisan Russia investigation found no evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russian government to influence the 2016 election,” he claimed. “The facts presented in Volume 5 make this conclusion abundantly clear, however I voted against the report because it fails to explicitly state this critical finding.” The factual findings are, for all intents and purposes, unanimous; the absence of any interpretive conclusions allowed the committee to achieve that substantial accomplishment.


This strategy also, however, allowed each member, or group of members, to draw their own conclusions. The committee leadership during the investigation—Sens. Richard Burr and Mark Warner—both decorously sat out from this jockeying. But a group of Republican senators wrote additional views to emphasize their conclusion that while “the Russian government inappropriately meddled in our 2016 general election in many ways[,] then-Candidate Trump was not complicit. After more than three years of investigation by this Committee, we can now say with no doubt, there was no collusion.” And Democratic members wrote separately to state their conclusion that:


The Committee's bipartisan Report unambiguously shows that members of the Trump Campaign cooperated with Russian efforts to get Trump elected. It recounts efforts by Trump and his team to obtain dirt on their opponent from operatives acting on behalf of the Russian government. It reveals the extraordinary lengths by which Trump and his associates actively sought to enable the Russian interference operation by amplifying its electoral impact and rewarding its perpetrators—even after being warned of its Russian origins. And it presents, for the first time, concerning evidence that the head of the Trump Campaign was directly connected to the Russian meddling through his communications with an individual found to be a Russian intelligence officer.

Our own conclusions are notably closer to those of the Democrats than to those of the Republicans. To read these thousand pages and come away with the conclusion that they amount to evidence of “no collusion” really involves a protestation of faith, not a dispassionate assessment of presented evidence. As we said at the outset, debating what constitutes “collusion” is not worth anyone’s time, given that the word has no agreed-upon meaning in this context and that to say that there was none of it doesn’t answer in any event the more important question of what the facts amount to. Here are the conclusions we believe the Intelligence Committee’s evidence supports:


The Trump campaign and Donald Trump himself were certainly aware in real time of Russian efforts to intervene in the 2016 presidential election. The campaign had a heads-up that Russia had stolen Democratic emails. And Russian operatives sought and received a meeting with senior Trump campaign officials promising “dirt” on Trump’s opponent. As the campaign wore on, and the Russian efforts were increasingly made public, Trump personally and publicly encouraged them.

The Trump campaign was run for a time by a man with an ongoing business relationship with a Russian intelligence operative, to whom he gave proprietary internal polling data.


The Trump campaign did not discourage Russian activity on its behalf. In fact, it sought repeatedly to coordinate its messaging around WikiLeaks releases of information. The campaign, and Trump personally, sought to contact WikiLeaks to receive information in advance about releases and may well have succeeded.

The campaign sought to obtain disparaging information about Hillary Clinton from actors who either were Russian operatives or it believed were Russian operatives. It did so through a number of means—some of these efforts were direct. Some were indirect.

The Russian government and affiliated actors clearly regarded the Trump campaign as a prime target for influence and recruitment. Russia targeted a diverse array of people associated with Trump for contact and engagement through an astonishing variety of avenues. Some of these attempts were rebuffed. Many of them were successful. The result was a sustained degree of engagement between the campaign, and later the transition, and Russian officials and cutouts.

Trump’s personal and business history in Russia provided a significant opportunity for kompromat. Such material was very likely collected. There is less evidence that it was ever deployed, though Trump’s mere awareness of his vulnerability gives rise to substantial counterintelligence concerns.

Trump’s active pursuit of business deals in Russia while running for president and denying any such deals created significant counterintelligence risk.
Trump’s campaign, and later transition, were filled with a remarkable number of people who had secret interactions with Russian actors, about which they lied either in real time or in retrospect.

All of this activity, particularly cumulatively, amounts to a grave set of counterintelligence concerns, in which any number of Trump campaign figures—including the candidate himself—exposed themselves to potential coercive pressure from an adversary foreign actor.

Trump to this day will not criticize Russian President Vladimir Putin or acknowledge unambiguously Russian intervention in the 2016 election.

We will leave it to others to debate what words best summarize this picture.

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Guess they should have hired you instead of Mueller.

Author: iairishcheeks (28067 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:02 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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You're not helping your cause...'When you're in a hole...Stop Digging'...you have nothing to support

Author: TyroneIrish (21416 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:10 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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you...I do.

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Seems like you're 180* out of phase with reality.

Author: iairishcheeks (28067 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:22 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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If you only listened to your own advice.

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Tyrone is “The Black Knight”…

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33699 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:50 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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Among other things…

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Make up anything you like…I’ve got a 996 page document that proves Trump sought and got help from

Author: TyroneIrish (21416 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:34 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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Putin to win the 2016 election…care to try and prove me wrong?

Thread Level: 8

People are taking mercy on you at this point.

Author: iairishcheeks (28067 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:56 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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You should have your wife read your posts back to you.

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Translation...no MAGA here can deny the evidence, ergo, nothing but insults and distractions...it's

Author: TyroneIrish (21416 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:13 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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always the same...I and others, are used to it.

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Yes, poor you.

Author: iairishcheeks (28067 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:23 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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As they say..."Thanks For Proving My Point"...i.e. you've got nothing...

Author: TyroneIrish (21416 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:24 am on Aug 1, 2025
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Too bad they didn't have all the dirt being declassified now. Could have been cleared up years ago.

Author: Iggle (12754 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 2:50 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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What are you talking about?...have you read the 2020 Report, or the Lawfare summary with links to it

Author: TyroneIrish (21416 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:57 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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that I provided you?

Maybe you can provide explanations for Trump Campaign Manager, Paul Manafort, handing internal polling data to Russian agent, Konstantin Kilimnik...or Donald Trump Jr. meeting in Trump Tower with Russian attorney, Natalia Veselnitskaya, for the sole purpose of getting "dirt" on Hillary Clinton...no one else has been able to come up with a benign rationale for those collaborations with our worst enemy.


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The bags with evidence marked “burn”, for example.

Author: LanceManion (8240 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 6:22 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Manafort was running a Hunter Biden Grift, it's in the Mueller report.

Author: iairishcheeks (28067 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:01 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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Manafort was handing Trump campaign internal polling data to Russian agent, Konstantin Kilimnik,..

Author: TyroneIrish (21416 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:11 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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try to stay focused on the issue at hand...i.e. there is no "Russia Hoax"...Trump and Putin authorized their aides to work together in order to get DJT elected in 2016...naturally, Trump is doing all he can to deny what the Senate Intel Committee found...while distracting from his exceptionally close relationship over many years with Sex Trafficker, Jeffrey Epstein.

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That is not in dispute, it was for personal gain.

Author: iairishcheeks (28067 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:17 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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And what is your explanation for Don Jr. meeting with Natalia Veselnitskaya to get dirt on

Author: TyroneIrish (21416 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 5:10 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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Hillary Clinton?

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Before we can move forward, is this your acknowledgment that you're wrong about Manafort?

Author: iairishcheeks (28067 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:07 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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Manafort was on the hook for $10M to a Russian Oligarch…

Author: TyroneIrish (21416 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:50 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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All Oligarchs exist at Putin’s pleasure…Manafort was squeezed into the Trump campaign and had access to material Russians wanted…he paid some of his debt by handing over internal polling data to Konstantin Kilimnik. Also, Don Jr. met with that Russian attorney to get dirt on Hillary…no way Jr. goes “rogue” against his Dad’s wishes.

Add them…and hundreds of other interactions between the campaign and Russia…together and you get pure Treasonous Collusion.

Donald Trump belongs in a Max Security Cell, right now….and he knows it.


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What good is a special counsel if you choose to believe whatever you want?

Author: iairishcheeks (28067 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:52 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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This case is far past settled, you need to get with the program. It will save you some embarrassment.

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I'll ask you as well...Why did Trump and Jr. lie about the Trump Tower meeting?...this is not

Author: TyroneIrish (21416 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:14 am on Aug 1, 2025
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"Settled" until DJT is held accountable for his crimes...and these are not, by any means...Misdemeanors.

Thread Level: 13

You're "why is my insane conspiracy not accepted by normals?"

Author: iairishcheeks (28067 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:05 am on Aug 1, 2025
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Answer's because they are normal.

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A few things.

Author: jakers (14047 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:37 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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1 - She doesn't work for the Russian government.

2 - She provided him with nothing on Hillary Clinton.

3 - If it's so damning, why weren't Trump nor his son charged, much less indicted on anything related to collusion?


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Talk about living under a rock...ask yourself.why both Jr. and his Dad lied about the meeting and

Author: TyroneIrish (21416 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:10 am on Aug 1, 2025
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had to make up another story after emails surfaced that proved the meeting was all about the 2016 election.

Do you conduct the rest of your life this way?


Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Tower_meeting

Thread Level: 11

So no evidence nor answers. Surrender accepted.

Author: jakers (14047 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:38 am on Aug 1, 2025
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I think Baron has a rule about the left not accepting irrefutable evidence.

Author: PaND (2808 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 3:06 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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LOL...Baron has many self-serving and hypocritical "Rules"...thanks for the chuckle...

Author: TyroneIrish (21416 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:14 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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Commenting about hypocrisy is rich coming from you. You have Trump-like tendencies.

Author: irish93 (1787 Posts - Joined: Nov 1, 2009)

Posted at 3:56 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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Care to back that up with substance…like a posting thread?

Author: TyroneIrish (21416 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 5:13 pm on Jul 31, 2025
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NB: I do…for Baron

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