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Here's what libs aren't understanding about Trump

Author: MarkHarman (7373 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:11 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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Most people who aren't hardcore Trump haters don't care if he fired the stats guy. Most don't care about his business dealings, whether he lies or whether he acts presidential.

All they care about is if they can afford stuff, have job opportunities and keeping our country safe from criminal and outside threats. That's it. If that stuff doesn't happen then people will turn on him. Once you understand that, you'll get it. Because right now you don't.


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Thread Level: 2

Right, let’s blame trump’s criminality on hard core haters.

Author: jimbasil (52984 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 5:46 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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Your post clearly addresses the hardcore stupidity on the right.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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A decent number demonstrated with Obama that style matters more than substance or competence.

Author: LanceManion (8259 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 4:31 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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If the guy was a 65 year-old white man, he'd never have been re-elected. His domestic policy was divisive, and his foreign policy was dreadful.

Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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More baloney. Just more bullshit to mask the destruction of this country by DJT.

Author: jimbasil (52984 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 5:48 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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The sky is falling?

Author: Hensou (8774 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 8:05 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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Trump IS a criminal threat...how many crimes by him will it take for you to 'Get It"?

Author: TyroneIrish (21463 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:08 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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...and the only people he's helping financially are the wealthiest among us.

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He helped me. I dropped into a lower tax bracket and I’m not rich.

Author: jray (3376 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:17 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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Do you feel that your benefit justifies exploding...again...our shared national debt, while also

Author: TyroneIrish (21463 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:00 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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further enriching the wealthiest among us?. And let's not forget his attempted insurrection, followed by mindlessly causing widespread chaos in all of our critical agencies and international alliances?

The man is, was, and always will be a Criminal, Fraud, Rapist with a Malignant Narcissistic Personality Disorder that has zero concern for anyone but himself...he is a genuine threat to this nation's future. Here's hoping you get what's going on around you.


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Paul Krugman says the amount of the national debt is irrelevant. Do you not agree with him?

Author: MarkHarman (7373 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:54 am on Aug 4, 2025
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You should have done some research before posting...heres what PK said last month...

Author: TyroneIrish (21463 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:53 am on Aug 4, 2025
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Let me know your thoughts on what he had to say.

Link: https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/trumps-big-beautiful-debt-bomb

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Money is best when it’s in our pockets.

Author: jray (3376 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:02 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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Aside from the inequalities of Trump's BBB, have your living costs gone down?...Will those temporary

Author: TyroneIrish (21463 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:23 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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benefits make up for rising prices due to tariffs?...

Link: https://americansfortaxfairness.org/atf-letter-opposing-bbb-senate/

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Been a rough week for your wannabe colleagues at O.S.F.

Author: jakers (14048 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:22 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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Can't wash DJT's record away...no matter how hard you try...

Author: TyroneIrish (21463 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:27 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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You think I'm concerned about that? He's mostly doing what he was voted in to do.

Author: jakers (14048 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:11 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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I'd like him to lower the deficit, but the rest of the noise is just you people flailing.

B.T.W., how do you feel knowing that a Soros weasel was directly involved in the Russia Hoax? It'd be terrible to see your hero Bernardo find himself in legal trouble.


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He’s not only failed to lower the Deficit, he’s twice Exploded it…also failed to fix our Border

Author: TyroneIrish (21463 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 5:32 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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Security and Immigration problems…created pure chaos in all phases of government…trashed all the good work America has done throughout the world since WWII…never mind engineering an insurrection.

Get It?


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He reduced illegal immigration without your billions in waste.

Author: jakers (14048 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:53 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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And illegals are being deported. Your idiot dementia-addled moron ran 120% wartime deficits and clobbered inflation while making us a global joke.

America rejected you.


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No he didn't...he's just shutting the door and mindlessly deporting good workers with no criminal

Author: TyroneIrish (21463 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:30 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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records...and no Due Process...meanwhile we have a backlog of over 3M immigrants awaiting final disposition of their legal status...and have been for upwards of 6 years. Trump not only hasn't done a thing about this, but has no plans in place for it.

We NEED millions of immigrants in Agriculture, Construction, Hospitality, Facility Services, etc., to keep our GDP growing...and we had a bipartisan Senate Border Security Bill that addressed ALL our issues...It's dead, thanks to Trump. BTW, that bill had funding for over 100 High Speed Fentanyl Scanners of cars and trucks (the primary mode of transport for the drug)...and that was more than 1-1/2 years ago...heaven knows how much has gotten into the country while DJT plays politics with "Immigration".

As for Joe Biden...instead of purposely "Downplaying" COVID-19, he did all the right things to control the pandemic in this country, and at the same time oversaw the best handling of any country on the planet when it came to the global inflation from COVID and Putin's War on Ukraine...in addition, JB got major bipartisan legislation passed that benefitted ALL Americans (e.g. Infrastructure, CHIPS...)...things that DJT only promised every two weeks, but never delivered. Biden isn't, and never was, demented...as proven with his 2024 SOTU speech...the debate debacle was due to exhaustion...no one suddenly becomes demented in three months.

In case you haven't noticed...America is rejecting Trump...the sum of all polls has him underwater for his job performance as well as all his policies...including how he's going about dealing with Immigration. As for me being rejected, I'm not sure that many know who I am...but thanks for thinking so highly of my influence ;-).


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So many inaccuracies in this post, a new record for you

Author: MarkHarman (7373 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:04 am on Aug 4, 2025
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Just to address a few:

Joe Biden by all accounts has dementia. You keep hanging your hat on one speech where Baron explained he was almost certainly drugged up, and the debate wasn't the only time he was mentally lost. Quit ignoring the dozens of other instances.

Your hero the Great Fauchino said himself Trump did not downplay Covid. So now you're calling him a liar.

The border bill did not address "all" border problems. What fantasy world do you keep living in? Mark Levin also accurately pointed out that that bill had no chance before Trump weighed in on it as Senate Republicans overall weren't happy with it.

Do we need immigrants? Sure...legal ones. Not once have you ever made a distinction between those here legally and not legally. They are not the same.


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Well, let's start with Baron..."...was ALMOST certainly drugged up..."...you've got to be kidding.

Author: TyroneIrish (21463 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:15 am on Aug 4, 2025
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...does he have any evidence?...since he/you obviously agree that JB's SOTU speech showed no signs of dementia (hence the need to invoke "Drugs")..what drug does Baron believe would turn a previously demented person into an an outstanding speaker? I'm pretty sure that would have made front page news and sparked a run on the drug for all the millions of dementia patients in this country, and around the world...don't you think?..in short, this is just another 'Made Up' claim by an OB/GYN Wannabe Psychiatrist... and you fell for it.

Trump himself is on tape telling Bob Woodward that he did "Downplay" the disease...and "Always wanted to". Sadly, he did this in the crucial early days, weeks and months of the emerging pandemic.

Watch GOP Co-Sponsor, Sen. James Lankford nodding and saying "That's True" with his lips when the camera focuses on him during JB's SOTU speech segment on benefits of the Senate Border Security and Immigration Bill.

Every immigrant interdicted and not immediately denied entry gets to have their request processed. Until that is completed, they are "Undocumented", but LEGALLY allowed to remain here. Right now, that process is taking up to 6 years or more...the Bill had funding for enough Judges, Investigators, etc. to reduce the time to 6 months, or less...at which time those immigrants would be rejecteddeported, or given legal status. Trump is doing NONE OF THAT....therefore, we are clogged with Undocumented (not yet legal) immigrants. Also, the Senate Bill had funding for 1,500 MORE CBP officers....hundreds MORE ICE agents...AND...100+ High Speed Fentanyl Scanners for the 10's of thousands of cars and trucks that enter the USA every day...NONE OF THEM are in in place now...and no plans have been announced that I've heard of..

As you can see, Donald Trump is an Abject Failure as a President. The only thing he's good at is appealing to low information voters who admire him for being just like them.


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You do t get it…

Author: WoodstockIrish (14766 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:36 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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Here’s what you and the other 6-7 libs on here don’t get. He had a list of campaign promises and he’s slowly checking each and every one of them off. We don’t vote for him to be a nice guy. We know that most of the charges brought against him were trumped up bullshit and like millions and millions of other Americans believed in him and voted for him. You and the other 6-7 just have a hard on for him and anything he does. Your schtick gets incredibly old and is insufferable. I’m retired and damn glad he’s our President and not that fucking joke you all “nominated”.

There is a reason almost all 7-8 of you are on ignore by almost everyone on this board. You’re all just white noise. I’m just stupid and logout sometimes to see the bullshit you all are spewing and watch the 7-8 of you jack each other off. It’s really funny sometimes just to watch the threads where you all are fellating each other.


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Name the promises he has made and the promises he’s accomplished!

Author: jimbasil (52984 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 7:17 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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Go ahead - don’t be afraid.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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The border, mass deportation, lowered inflation, increased energy independence,

Author: WoodstockIrish (14766 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:10 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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Slow outsourcing and bring jobs and investment back to the US, kept the tax cuts from his first term, no tax on tips, get rid of the woke bullshit, multiple peace deals, root out fraud and waste in government and the Medicaid program. Just a few. There are many more.

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Inflation is up, costs are up, fees are up, HC cost are rising quickly, ICE is a dog & pony show as

Author: jimbasil (52984 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 8:53 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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deportations are not more than ever before, US is more energy dependent now than under Biden, Tax cuts are detrimental to the lower economic classes better for the extremely wealthy, jobs creation has plummeted, there are no peace deals, he’s alienated all of North America, Europe, Asia, most of South America and Central America, most of African nations, killed scientific research in US, given the energy market to China, enhanced his financial interests by gouging the tax payer, is in the process of destroying the rule of law in US, divided this nation by color, gender, race, religion, economic status, increased fraud, corruption, crime - divided a nation. And this is only the surface of it.

You’ve made up everything. You’re either a liar, stupid or just a sucker but probably all.

Maybe you were born with brain damage.


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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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You’re wrong about everything

Author: WoodstockIrish (14766 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:55 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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But you sure sound, act and are as revolting as your 6-7 counterparts on this board. And like the vast majority of them aren’t even ND alumni.

It’s neck and neck as to who’s the biggest prick amongst your lib group. It’s amazing the similarities amongst you.


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Trumpian bullshit resides in your head rent free.

Author: jimbasil (52984 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 10:06 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Some people actually give a shit about the country. You don’t. We get it.

Author: Chris94 (37111 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:07 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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You’re a great American.

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Where are you living as we speak? :)

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:49 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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So people who don’t agree with you don’t care about the country?

Author: Hensou (8774 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 4:59 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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What a stupid thing to say.

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As an academic, you live in theory-world. I live in the real world.

Author: MarkHarman (7373 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:55 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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Fuck that. Your “real world” is just all about you.

Author: Chris94 (37111 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:01 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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No, I use logic and reason based on facts. Left wingers don't

Author: MarkHarman (7373 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:09 am on Aug 4, 2025
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As a lefty, your main belief system, as the late Charles Krauthammer accurately pointed out, is based on emotional concepts of "fairness" and "compassion." I agree these are great traits but those of us not on the left disagree with your definitions of such.

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You just said that all you care about is your bottom line

Author: Chris94 (37111 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:40 am on Aug 4, 2025
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Fine. When things get more expensive, then maybe you’ll notice.

Some of us care about the country. You don’t. We get it.


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When have prices ever gone down?

Author: Hensou (8774 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 12:18 pm on Aug 4, 2025
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Sure bet on your part.

If wages go up it’s not a problem.

Why do you insist on saying that people who don’t think like you don’t care about the country?


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Have you figured out the "Base Rate Fallacy" yet? You need to demonstrate reason and logic before

Author: TyroneIrish (21463 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:27 am on Aug 4, 2025
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claiming it.

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Nonsense. You live in an Ivory Tower.

Author: Hensou (8774 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 7:42 pm on Aug 3, 2025
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Where everyone is a dumb ass but you.

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