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Appeals court upholds TX voter ID for mail in ballots. #winning.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60611 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 1:06 pm on Aug 5, 2025
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Link: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/voter-id-law-texas-wins-appeals-court-after-biden-admin-sued

Replies to: Appeals court upholds TX voter ID for mail in ballots. #winning.


Thread Level: 2

willing to bet those unable to get an ID have no issue getting a mobile phone

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16254 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:27 pm on Aug 5, 2025
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Based on historical facts, if the GOP is pushing it, it results in Voter Suppression.

Author: TyroneIrish (21077 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:46 pm on Aug 5, 2025
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Link: https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/debunking-misinformation-photo-id

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If an American citizen can't figure out how to get an ID, they probably shouldn't be voting anyway

Author: MarkHarman (7349 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:33 am on Aug 6, 2025
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I've already provided you with data...here's some 'Anecdotal' info which may be more to your liking.

Author: TyroneIrish (21077 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:02 pm on Aug 6, 2025
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(see attached article)...

Bottom Line...in the real world, it's sometimes literally impossible...and in many others, extremely difficult...but Republicans know this, which is why they push for such laws...even though the risk of voter fraud due to no Photo ID is minuscule and hasn't affected any elections. What is certain, is that millions of voters, especially millions of elderly minority voters, can be kept from voting.


Link: https://www.npr.org/2012/02/01/146204308/why-millions-of-americans-have-no-government-id

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And suppression of alcohol purchases and airline travel and

Author: Curly1918 (16585 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 7:21 pm on Aug 5, 2025
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Automobile driving and a gazillion other things that require an ID.

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We'll wait for a basic explanation - a realistic one - as to how voters would be suppressed.

Author: jakers (13989 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:09 pm on Aug 5, 2025
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Impress us. Impress your handlers.

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No need to wait, just read the link I provided.

Author: TyroneIrish (21077 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 5:02 pm on Aug 5, 2025
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It was utter nonsense; filled with platitudes and opinions as facts.

Author: jakers (13989 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:10 pm on Aug 5, 2025
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Anyone has access to an I.D. - ANYONE. If their license is expired, they've got bigger problems than the voting booth. Election Days aren't sprung up as a surprise in the way that a speeding ticket can be - this is a simple requirement of responsibility.

I'm asking you (or your handlers) to state a reasonable argument as to how voters are suppressed by such election integrity laws.


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You may have missed these sections of the linked article...note that the disenfranchised are ALL

Author: TyroneIrish (21077 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:06 pm on Aug 5, 2025
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honest to God U.S. citizens who deserve to have their votes counted...but then, the Voter ID promoters already know this. They also know that there is something on the order of a 0.0004% chance of in person voter fraud. Note that Voter Registration (with Signatures...Addresses...Utility Bills, etc.) allows for verification of ballots in cases where races are closely contested. This isn't about Voter Fraud...it's about Cheating citizens of their right to cast a ballot.

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In a 2009 study in Indiana, Professors Matt Barreto, Stephen Nuño, and Gabriel Sanchez found that election restrictions like voter ID laws have the greatest impact on the elderly, racial and ethnic minorities, immigrants, those with less educational attainment and lower incomes. The professors found that of the citizen adult population, 81.4% of all white eligible adults had access to a driver’s license, whereas only 55.2% of black eligible adults had the same access. Indeed, study after study has similarly concluded that burdens to voting have a large and disparate impact on individuals with fewer resources, less education, smaller social networks, and those who are institutionally isolated.

The 2007 study, Voter ID Requirements and the Disenfranchisement of Latino, Black, and Asian Voters, based on exit polls from the 2006 elections in California, New Mexico, and Washington State, found that minority voters are less likely than whites to be able to present photo identification.

Many citizens who believe they have valid and sufficient photo IDs often do not. A national survey conducted after the November 2008 election found that 95% of respondents claimed to have a driver’s license, but 16% of those respondents lacked a license that was both current and valid. So of the of Americans who possess a photo ID, many lack proper identification that would enable to them to vote in elections under the new laws passed in Wisconsin, Kansas, Texas, South Carolina, and under legislation pending in many more states.
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Please explain why only 52% of blacks have an ID?

Author: WoodstockIrish (14727 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:33 am on Aug 6, 2025
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Do not include a link. We all want to hear you explain why it’s so hard. We’ll be waiting.

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Please link your source for the 52%...assuming you didn't just make it up yourself ;-)...(that made

Author: TyroneIrish (21077 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:09 pm on Aug 6, 2025
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my day for chuckles)...but in answer to your fundamental question...here's an AI summary of why fewer Black citizens than White don't have Photo IDs...

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AI Overview
According to research by the Brennan Center for Justice, 25% of Black voters lack acceptable photo ID, and 13% of Black adults do not possess any photo identification, according to Project Vote.

The disparity in photo ID ownership among Black Americans is attributed to several interconnected factors:

Historical Discrimination: During the Jim Crow era, many Black people were denied access to certain hospitals and therefore never received birth certificates, creating lasting generational barriers to obtaining the necessary documentation for a photo ID.

Poverty: Black communities face higher rates of poverty and are more likely to hold low-wage jobs, making the costs associated with obtaining and maintaining a photo ID, such as fees and transportation costs to ID offices, prohibitive.

Bureaucratic Obstacles: Accessing photo ID offices can be challenging, particularly for those in rural areas or with limited transportation. Many offices operate only during business hours, reports Democracy Docket. Additionally, obtaining the required underlying documents, such as birth certificates, can be complex and involve further time, effort, and expense.

Discriminatory Practices: Black communities are disproportionately impacted by discriminatory policing practices, such as searches and fines, which can lead to suspended driver's licenses at higher rates, further hindering access to a crucial form of photo ID.

These factors highlight the systemic barriers that Black Americans face in obtaining photo identification, contributing to the lower rates of ownership compared to other racial groups.
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he just did that - are you hard of hearing (humor), or just not paying attention?

Author: jimbasil (52858 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 7:46 am on Aug 6, 2025
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Seriously you need to pickup on comprehension skills or at least think about your responses first instead of MAGAjerking one.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 9

Humor me and give me the cliff notes version of why only 52% of African Americans

Author: WoodstockIrish (14727 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:52 pm on Aug 6, 2025
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Have an ID. His post was nothing but a bunch of bullshit.

Thread Level: 10

Flowery language on your part, but devoid of any substance or thought...you've been given more than

Author: TyroneIrish (21077 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:13 pm on Aug 6, 2025
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enough information to answer your question...information that you, yourself, could have accessed...if you had any "Critical Thinking" skills.

You're wasting Server Space on this site.


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Yeah, I read that worthless crap.

Author: jakers (13989 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:26 pm on Aug 5, 2025
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Best you got is biased opinion stretches from 16 years ago. Worthless.

Thread Level: 8

I don't see you posting changes that would invalidate the findings...are you aware of any?

Author: TyroneIrish (21077 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:45 pm on Aug 5, 2025
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Since that time we've had four secure general elections with no result changing fraud....where is the urgency for the Texas Voter ID push?...other than Republicans having to run on Trump's performance and policies...

Thread Level: 9

Huh? There were no findings. Just nonsense.

Author: jakers (13989 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:51 pm on Aug 5, 2025
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You want to cheat and are mad you can't. You and your handlers failed.

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The following excerpt highlights findings of a 2009 study showing a large disparity between

Author: TyroneIrish (21077 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:47 am on Aug 6, 2025
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white voter access to Photo ID vs Black Voters' access. Given the extremely low incidence of voter fraud involving personal identification, and the large proportion of Black voters not having access to Photo ID, there is clear and unnecessary disenfranchisement for many eligible voters...nothing 'nonsensical' about that.

Have you uncovered any evidence since that study to prove that Voter Fraud due to lack of Photo ID has become greater, and to an extent that it has affected any elections, thus necessitating a requirement for Voter Photo ID?

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In a 2009 study in Indiana, Professors Matt Barreto, Stephen Nuño, and Gabriel Sanchez found that election restrictions like voter ID laws have the greatest impact on the elderly, racial and ethnic minorities, immigrants, those with less educational attainment and lower incomes. The professors found that of the citizen adult population, 81.4% of all white eligible adults had access to a driver’s license, whereas only 55.2% of black eligible adults had the same access. Indeed, study after study has similarly concluded that burdens to voting have a large and disparate impact on individuals with fewer resources, less education, smaller social networks, and those who are institutionally isolated.
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Thread Level: 11

It's nonsense. I.D. access is a simple thing, available to all.

Author: jakers (13989 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:14 am on Aug 6, 2025
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Keep flailing.

Thread Level: 12

No it is not...read the material I've provided for you...there are literally millions of voters

Author: TyroneIrish (21077 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:16 pm on Aug 6, 2025
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disenfranchised by Photo ID requirements. Don't hide from reality...face facts. If you want to debate them, be my guest...but bring SUBSTANCE to bear when you do.

Thread Level: 12

The fail army keeps marching to the top of the wrong hill to die on.

Author: iairishcheeks (27629 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:22 pm on Aug 6, 2025
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Thread Level: 11

2009, very relevant today. Keep up the good work.

Author: PaND (2769 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 8:39 am on Aug 6, 2025
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" Handlers" Perfect description of the programmer's

Author: ColeyO (12541 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:01 pm on Aug 5, 2025
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of this phony ND Alum Bot

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Take a break from your trolling...share your thoughts on the link I provided wrt Voter ID...

Author: TyroneIrish (21077 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 5:11 pm on Aug 5, 2025
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I’m good with voter ID laws. There are programs where the less fortunate can obtain an ID for free

Author: Domer From Hell (16654 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:37 pm on Aug 5, 2025
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We're all born bald baby!
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Yes. There is no one for whom getting an I.D. is harder than voting.

Author: jakers (13989 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:09 pm on Aug 5, 2025
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You can do virtually nothing in this country without some form of government-issued I.D.

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But Jakes they only have 4 years to get one.

Author: Hensou (8441 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 5:09 pm on Aug 5, 2025
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And the Democrats would never help them get one.

It’s true racism and Nazi dictator authoritarian bullshit and you know it.


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Author: Hensou (8441 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 6:59 pm on Aug 5, 2025
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Author: Hensou (8441 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 6:59 pm on Aug 5, 2025
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That's racist, say the Dems. But Blacks think the Democrats are racist on this issue...

Author: NedoftheHill (44859 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 2:38 pm on Aug 5, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Cheating is what you mean.

Author: jimbasil (52858 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 1:48 pm on Aug 5, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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What is the argument that explains why ID is difficult to obtain for any American?

Author: MAS (21629 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:52 pm on Aug 5, 2025
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You won’t get a straight answer out of him or the linkster

Author: WoodstockIrish (14727 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:55 pm on Aug 6, 2025
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There is no excuse. It’s total bullshit.

Thread Level: 2

The opinion reads like... common sense.

Author: Curly1918 (16585 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 1:29 pm on Aug 5, 2025
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