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U’s that want fed funds will need to submit detailed admissions data.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60614 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:58 pm on Aug 7, 2025
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This is in the aftermath of many instances of major university admissions workers openly admitting that they are still using racial filters using different terms to accomplish what the SCOTUS has ruled illegal.

When faced with the SCOTUS ruling citing the Equal Protections Clause in 2023, most universities chose to find ways around it rather than comply.

Over years, university leadership and staff have become overwhelmingly liberal, and they didn’t like the ruling. The natural response for these liberals was to not comply.

This ought to hit them hard in the gender nuts at a time when they can’t afford it.
In other words, they will comply out of fear of losing important money.

When dealing with terrorists (and liberals), you deal through strength, not appeasement.


Link: https://www.newsmax.com/us/trump-college-admissions-race-based-criteria/2025/08/07/id/1221656/

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Thread Level: 2

This obsession with race is silly... on both sides. It only generates unnecessary tensions.

Author: Curly1918 (16585 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 8:50 am on Aug 8, 2025
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The races are getting along better than ever. Why stir up animosity?.

Thread Level: 3

You didn’t even know it was unconstitutional. “What’s the big deal?” Guess what?

Author: BaronVonZemo (60614 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:04 am on Aug 8, 2025
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The Equal Protections Clause applies to white people the same as all others.

I know that you are not used to seeing that. I know that it is so ingrained with you that you have just accepted it.

I also know that you are horribly out of touch about the state of race relations since the Great Divider Obama rended apart growing peace between races in our country.

But your choice of appeasement (tolerance of ingrained discrimination) never works with terrorist nor with liberals.
ALL people need ti be treated equally - you are quite a strong liberal on this issue.


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Title VII also prohibits discrimination on the basis of race, color, religion ...

Author: LanceManion (8053 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 9:34 am on Aug 8, 2025
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Not just for non-whites. There is no such thing as reverse discrimination. There is only discrimination.

Next up, hate speech laws need to go.


Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
Thread Level: 5

Title VII is not the Constitution and the admission of qualified black folks is not discrimination.

Author: Curly1918 (16585 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 10:10 am on Aug 8, 2025
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I personally feel disappointed that Notre Dame has so few black students, although I get that they are rarely Catholic and are more frequently less economically advantaged. I had a couple close black friends there back in the late 1960's and I seriously benefited from our interactions.

Thread Level: 2

All this will just be undone by the next Democrat administration.

Author: NedoftheHill (44859 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:59 pm on Aug 7, 2025
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Congress needs to endorse some of these EO's.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 3

True. In the mean time, real Americans at least feel empowered to speak up.

Author: LanceManion (8053 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 5:58 am on Aug 8, 2025
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It's amazing to watch the return to performance management at work. For a while there, only white males were being performance managed. We're returning to a state where everyone is held accountable.

Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
Thread Level: 3

My question is: Who still wants this racist policy?

Author: iairishcheeks (27631 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:02 am on Aug 8, 2025
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I can't imagine anyone getting elected.on this as a part of their platform.

Thread Level: 4

The benfactors of it, of course. And which party has that group as it’s key demographic?

Author: BaronVonZemo (60614 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:05 am on Aug 8, 2025
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Agreed.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60614 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:12 pm on Aug 7, 2025
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Interesting that the Newsmax article references the debunked argument against UCLA’s Med School…

Author: TyroneIrish (21077 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:29 pm on Aug 7, 2025
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Check out my earlier link to the L.A. Times review.

Thread Level: 3

I read both articles. The LA Times article fails to address a number of key arguments

Author: MarkHarman (7349 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:34 pm on Aug 7, 2025
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made in the Free Beacon. Probably because it was inconvenient to their narrative...an M.O. you're well familiar with.

Thread Level: 4

What specific issues do you have with the LAT article?...maybe I can shed some light on them.

Author: TyroneIrish (21077 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:13 am on Aug 8, 2025
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btw, it's not uncommon for applicants to Med School to get rejected...even if they have superior GPAs and MCAT scores...the attached article, meant for aspiring Med Students outlines the top reasons....from talking with our family Docs, it often boils down to them being Super Test Takers...but lacking in interpersonal skills...poor communication skills and difficulty working with others...after all, Docs need to work with other Docs, Nurses, Staff...and Patients! Have you ever met a Doc you didn't want to see again?

Again...Grades and Test Scores are NOT enough to get accepted...be sure to read the attached link to get a better understanding of why.


Link: https://medschoolinsiders.com/pre-med/reasons-youll-be-rejected-from-med-school/

Thread Level: 5

Try this

Author: MarkHarman (7349 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:26 am on Aug 8, 2025
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"Though only 5 percent of students fail each test nationally, the rates are much higher at UCLA, having increased tenfold in some subjects since 2020, according to internal data obtained by the Free Beacon."

The LA Times article bashes the Free Beacon for interviewing"only" eight doctors, but how many more do you need? They can't interview everyone, and most probably wouldn't want to be interviewed, anyway. And this is the same LA Times that is part of a mainstream media that will gush over what one person says (one person who claims Trump called dead servicemen suckers and losers) over 19 people who were there at the time who said he never said that.

"When an admissions officer voiced concern about the candidate, the two people said, the dean of admissions, Jennifer Lucero, exploded in anger.

'Did you not know African-American women are dying at a higher rate than everybody else?' Lucero asked the admissions officer, these people said. The candidate's scores shouldn't matter, she continued, because 'we need people like this in the medical school.'" She either said this or she didn't. If she did she should immediately be fired. The Times article didn't address this, either.


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It's about results...read the LAT article again...the quality of admitted students didn't go down

Author: TyroneIrish (21077 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:52 am on Aug 8, 2025
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under Dr. Lucero's efforts to have a more diverse student body....here's an excerpt...
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It’s true that the entering medical school class at UCLA has become more diverse over time. Figures issued by UCLA and published by the Beacon show that from 2019 through 2022, the number of whites in the 173-member class declined to 46 from 49, the number of Black students rose to 25 from 22, Hispanic students rose from 25 to 37, a catchall “other” category grew to 20 from eight, and American Indians, Hawaiians and other Pacific Islanders went from zero to three. The number of Asian students declined to 55 from 84.

Does this validate the article’s assertion, voiced by an anonymous source (of course), that “a third to a half of the medical school is incredibly unqualified”?

The math doesn’t pencil out. As blogger and statistics maven Kevin Drum notes, given that the number of nonwhite and non-Asian students increased by only 30 in three years, even if “every single one of these students was woefully unqualified, that’s about 17% of the class. How do you get from there to ‘a third to a half’?”

By the way, the median grade-point averages and scores on the Medical College Admission Test of accepted applicants haven’t declined at all since 2020 — the MCAT average in 2023 was the same as in 2020, and the GPA rose by a hair.

In emails to the medical school class, Dubinett and his fellow deans have reinforced their commitment to merit-based admissions and diversity training. “Students and faculty members are held to the highest standards of academic excellence,” they wrote. “Highly qualified medical students and trainees are admitted ... based on merit in a process consistent with state and federal law.” That said, “we are enriched by the diverse experiences each of you brings to our community.”

UCLA, then, is standing firm against the right wing’s drive to pretend that racial and ethnic discrimination doesn’t exist in our society and to undermine efforts to wipe it out. Would that more institutions took that stand, instead of capitulating to a dishonest, braying mob.
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The Free Beacon is just supporting Racism...


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