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Loaning funds for a college degree is the biggest scam going.

Author: Curly1918 (16697 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 12:29 pm on Aug 9, 2025
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The government gravy train for our universities is at the end of the line. For most students is was always an unnecessary luxury… but AI s rendering it FOOLISH

Link: https://fortune.com/article/college-degree-waste-of-money-gen-z-millennial-indeed-study-ai-obsolete/

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Thread Level: 2

With distance learning, college is essentially a scam now.

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33713 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:20 pm on Aug 9, 2025
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In terms of learning your discipline…(aside from labs maybe.)

You can now have the best prof in the land (or AI) teach everyone).

Other than maybe socializing with people who may help your career later.

They better be able to help a lot…for a $300,000 investment.


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A really good online class can be about 2/3 as good as an in-person class

Author: Chris94 (37111 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:26 pm on Aug 9, 2025
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And most online are not that great.

That doesn’t justify the astronomical and horrible costs of college, of course. But online classes are not the same.


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You're going to be replaced by AI, it's low hanging fruit.

Author: iairishcheeks (28118 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:29 pm on Aug 9, 2025
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My 16 YO daughter switched to home school and is talking college classes for free.

Author: iairishcheeks (28118 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:54 pm on Aug 9, 2025
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She's on a path to have an associates degree by the time she graduates HS.

Thread Level: 4

You home school. That figures.

Author: Chris94 (37111 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:27 pm on Aug 9, 2025
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I’m sure you justify it with the wisdom of podcasts, so it’s fine.

Thread Level: 5

Actually, I discouraged her from it at first.

Author: iairishcheeks (28118 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:13 pm on Aug 9, 2025
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She's a bright kid with a bit of an attitude, didn't get along with a few of her teachers and in those cases she got Bs rather than As which she's capable of. So she came home one day and declared she was going to be home schooled. My wife and I said, hell no. But she persisted with her arguments, so we made a deal. If she took one class on the home school program in the summer and got an A, she could do the homeschool program. It was Spanish 3, she finished it in 3 weeks and got a 97%.

But thanks for your judgement, dipshit.


Thread Level: 6

In this country, you are free to home-school your kids.

Author: Chris94 (37111 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:23 pm on Aug 9, 2025
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And I am free to judge you for doing it.

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I'm not doing shit, actually, it's all online.

Author: iairishcheeks (28118 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:32 pm on Aug 9, 2025
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All her choice, she's life hacking and I am really proud of her. She works 2 jobs, is out for a sport, volunteers at a church making and delivering lunches for underprivileged youth. Pretty sure she's on a great path.

Thread Level: 4

It works for mature teenagers.

Author: MAS (21751 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:08 pm on Aug 9, 2025
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In other words, overwhelmingly female HS students. I haven't encountered many male students who make it work.

I love the socialization argument. Yeah, your child will miss out on a lot of socialization, and most of it bad socialization.


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Meh. Sixth graders miss out on vocabulary lessons on the middle school/high school bus.

Author: Iggle (12755 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 7:18 pm on Aug 9, 2025
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Practical biology, too.

Thread Level: 4

That’s the way to manage it these days.

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33713 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:00 pm on Aug 9, 2025
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Agree Knute. Some colleges still offer connections and open doors to make it worthwhile, but those

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 2:42 pm on Aug 9, 2025
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are few in number.

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Still…I’m here moving my third child into her second year of college…

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33713 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:04 pm on Aug 9, 2025
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Oh my...it is HOT today.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 4:17 pm on Aug 9, 2025
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What’s her major? My daughter goes back for her 2nd year at the end of the month.

Author: Domer From Hell (16879 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:14 pm on Aug 9, 2025
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We're all born bald baby!
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Nursing. Honors program. Good for your daughter. All the best there.

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33713 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:54 pm on Aug 9, 2025
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Congrats Knute! Hope it’s a great weekend for you guys.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:14 pm on Aug 9, 2025
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👍 both my son & Daughter are RN’s, daughter finishing surgical school and son just got accepted a

Author: Frankx (5579 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 5:32 pm on Aug 9, 2025
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Couple of days ago

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Excellent! Good on ‘em! Such a noble profession!!

Author: Domer From Hell (16879 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:55 pm on Aug 9, 2025
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We're all born bald baby!
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That’s fantastic! The US needs more excellent nurses. My niece did her RN at SDSU

Author: Domer From Hell (16879 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:16 pm on Aug 9, 2025
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We're all born bald baby!
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Committed students and good professors to interact with will always succeed. No need to throw the

Author: TyroneIrish (21465 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:33 pm on Aug 9, 2025
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baby out with the bath water.

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Still haven't watched that AI podcast I posted it seems.

Author: iairishcheeks (28118 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:40 pm on Aug 9, 2025
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Didn't stand out in a cursory search...post it again...I'll be glad to watch it.

Author: TyroneIrish (21465 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:33 pm on Aug 9, 2025
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Here

Author: iairishcheeks (28118 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:15 pm on Aug 9, 2025
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Link: https://youtu.be/S9a1nLw70p0?si=AwNgsc-1v2ie4WDg

Thread Level: 7

What parts of it come closest to the point you're trying to make?...if you say "All", then you'll

Author: TyroneIrish (21465 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:29 am on Aug 10, 2025
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have to condense the 2+ hrs for me, Cheeks...when I post longish videos I usually direct viewers to 'time marks' for the key points....

Fingers crossed for your sake that you didn't watch every minute...


Thread Level: 8

I watched it about 3 times. There is nothing more important right now than this topic.

Author: iairishcheeks (28118 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:02 am on Aug 10, 2025
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I'm well aware of the "Coming Wave"...now that you've absorbed that podcast, pick up a copy of

Author: TyroneIrish (21465 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:43 am on Aug 10, 2025
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Mustafa Suleyman's book with that title.

Our challenge is to make 'Good Use' of this amazing tool...btw, back in the late '90's (1990's ;-)) I was promoting the initial benefits of what would later be termed "AI" to CIO's and CEO's visiting our company. Yes, the technology is 'Disruptive', but it's a natural evolution of mankind's drive for knowledge...not unlike Nuclear Power, that drive needs to be managed very carefully and intelligently...Agree?


Link: https://www.gatesnotes.com/books/books-home-topic/reader/the_coming_wave

Thread Level: 10

Here is that author on the same podcast.

Author: iairishcheeks (28118 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:56 am on Aug 10, 2025
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Link: https://youtu.be/CTxnLsYHWuI?si=BuFX5rCm5SRC1C_m

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