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AI and education.

Author: MAS (21750 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:32 am on Aug 12, 2025
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She is ultimately correct. I'm mostly effective in sniffing out AI cheating because of a smaller pool of students. In a larger setting, teachers/TAs/profs could spend entire days checking for AI cheating. I have a colleague at a neighboring school who simply has students do all writing on paper, in class, period.




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Thread Level: 2

We are entering a period of time where the ability to utilize AI as a tool is the most valuable skil

Author: iairishcheeks (28118 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:05 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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In my opinion, we should not be discouraging youth from utilizing these tools.

Thread Level: 3

It's pretty amazing what it can do and how quickly it can produce results.

Author: LanceManion (8259 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 2:15 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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I think it will be like kids and tablets - those who grow up with it will find it second nature, while those already in the workforce have to force themselves to use it.

At the end of the day, it's just a tool, and it's only as good as the information available to it.


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Thread Level: 4

It's just a tool for now, it is expected to become much more.

Author: iairishcheeks (28118 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:25 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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AI was recently used to design computer chips, the chips work very well, but humans can't figure out why.

Thread Level: 5

As long as they can put it into a sophisticated sex robot that caters to all my needs, I'm good.

Author: LanceManion (8259 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 3:28 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
Thread Level: 6

Ex Machina.

Author: iairishcheeks (28118 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:55 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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I just saw yesterday that one of those robots was about to pop the question to a living human being.

Author: MAS (21750 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:50 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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Apparently, the robot is ready to settle down.

Thread Level: 7

Beware of what happens if the person says “no”.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:56 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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Thread Level: 7

Bitches!!

Author: LanceManion (8259 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 5:52 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
Thread Level: 2

I’m curious…

Author: Domer From Hell (16878 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:18 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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What are some of the signs you look for when it comes to AI cheating. As far as videos, it’s easy to distinguish between AI and non-AI.

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Thread Level: 3

The ones most of you have probably already guessed:

Author: MAS (21750 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:53 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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1. Six-syllable words from a student who has never gone beyond three in his life.
2. A student breaks out multiple subordinate clauses and has never used a subordinate clause in his life.
3. Includes something like, "I shall now show..." I have no British students.
4. Has not a word "on paper" one day, and the next day has four pages completed.

Beyond all that, I get to see their writing across multiple grade levels over time. I know their styles and their voices in writing. The sterile voice of AI reverberates when they try to substitute it for their own.

One of my favorite things to do is to make the student read it aloud. Many just cop to the plea at that point. Others give it a try and within seconds, it becomes obvious that they don't know what the words mean. After a short while, most...most...figure out that it's just less trouble for them to write it themselves.

I have it comparatively easy in this regard. It's a nightmare for the math department. Their guess and my guess is that cheating on math homework is above 90% of students. And, mind you, we are now on standards-based grading (No A's, B's, C's, D's, F's), where homework accounts for zero/nada/bupkis in the gradebook, so the students actually doing math homework are the higher-achieving students. Come test time in math, they have enormous percentages of students, sometimes three-quarters of a class, "not meeting standards," i.e., "failing" in antiquated terms. Oh, and I should mention that under standards-based grading, students have unlimited retakes on tests until they "meet standards." What I'm saying is that it's even more difficult to detect or, more precisely, prove the AI cheating, and then the math teachers are left reteaching and reteaching and reteaching units, and regrading and regrading and regrading tests. Oh, and if after an entire year of not meeting standards, we no longer make students who "failed" retake the course over again the following year. No, instead, school districts now use "credit recovery." This is when failing students come in during the Summer for weeks, or sometimes just days, and magically make up the work for an entire school year in that small amount of time! Amazing! Of course, what happens is that the assignments are pared way down, or they only have to do the tests, not all the other work. So they retake, retake, retake the tests until they pass them and, voila, they're done! Graduation rates preserved!


Thread Level: 4

Interesting. What are the consequences when a student is caught cheating?

Author: Domer From Hell (16878 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:12 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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Thread Level: 5

It is a "minor," rather than a "major" in our behavior reporting system.

Author: MAS (21750 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:32 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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After five minors, a student will face some form of minor consequence. It's like in larger society: when there is a deluge of some type of antisocial behavior, if it is not stemmed immediately, it becomes tacitly accepted and more and more common. Think of the Broken Window Theory of criminal justice. The principal's daughter, an honor roll student, was busted last year in math, for crying out loud. The students know that they are likely to get away with it, so the certainty of punishment variable is largely gone, and then to compound it, the harshness of punishment is minimal. Anyone can do that math.

The central reason I'm hesitant to go to paper-only, and all writing in class is a practical one: the handwriting of students is unreadable. More than half the time, they can't even make out what they wrote.


Thread Level: 6

I was just thinking about your colleague’s policy…

Author: Domer From Hell (16878 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:41 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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It must be a nightmare for him to read some of that scribble. Some kids these days can’t or won’t even write in cursive. My kids weren’t even taught it, so my wife and I taught them.

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Thread Level: 7

He's a determined individual. Veteran and worked as a guard at a juvenile detention facility while

Author: MAS (21750 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:58 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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going through college after the Army.

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