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Trump’s pick for BLS commissioner suggests suspending the monthly jobs report

Author: Chris94 (37111 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:57 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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I'm sure that will be better. Just don't report the bad news.

The new guy is a zealot from the Heritage Foundation and has no experience doing this kind of thing at all.

The beclowning of the government continues.


Link: https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/12/economy/antoni-bls-mulls-suspending-jobs-report

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Thread Level: 2

"President" Trump piles the shite on and the Gumps eat the sandwich. Then burp.

Author: ND521 (9565 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 1:39 am on Aug 13, 2025
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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I don't think it's about bad news but bad data.

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:16 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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As I've been saying for 20 years, bad data is worse than no data because you're making decisions on information that is wrong.

We need good data, period.


Thread Level: 3

And the data is off materially a lot. It would be one thing if it were rounding error, but it's not.

Author: LanceManion (8259 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 1:57 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
Thread Level: 3

It's never been a secret that the BLS data is not perfect, and those who deal with it seriously

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:22 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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factor in the expected "Adjustments" to get as good a "feel" for trends as possible... better to explain the reality and assumptions than not have any data at all...Flying totally blind is not the solution...

Thread Level: 4

If I told you that the tornado is to the East so go West....

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:23 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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But the tornado was to the West instead, you'd have been better off randomly choosing an escape route.

Thread Level: 5

Come join the discussion whenever you'd like...

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:17 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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Thread Level: 6

I guess you're just not capable of understanding my point, I accept that.

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:22 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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Thread Level: 7

Your point was clear and germane to the "discussion".

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33713 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:50 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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Flying blind has a better chance of achieving a positive outcome than acting on bad information that drives one towards sure disaster...

Thread Level: 8

Tyrone thrives on bad data, it's just his nature.

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:16 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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I'm not saying you're not entertaining, but "Through the Looking-Glass...and What Cheeks

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:18 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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Found There" isn't my cup of tea.

Thread Level: 4

And yet a bad monetary policy decision was made by the Fed.

Author: NedoftheHill (44963 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 2:20 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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One would think that the Fed would be one of "those who deal with it seriously." The Fed didn't lower rates, citing the jobs report ... but there is now a predicted 96% chance of a rate cut in next meeting, solely because of the corrected data. The BLS basically determined US monetary policy by issuing incorrect data, and the Fed trusted them.

Like cheeks says, bad data is worse than no data.


Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 5

Attached is a 'Fact Check' that I believe proves you wrong wrt DJT's claims of "Rigging" by the BLS.

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:16 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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...now it's your turn to prove otherwise...

Link: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fact-check-trumps-claims-jobless-numbers-rigged/story?id=124353890

Thread Level: 6

I didn't say anything was rigged. I said BLS set monetary policy b/c Fed trusted their bad numbers.

Author: NedoftheHill (44963 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 3:31 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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I stated facts.

You and Trump are projecting intent onto those facts.

Rigging isn't required to justify serious changes at the BLS.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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The interactions between the Fed and BLS data has been going on for decades...this isn't something

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:31 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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new that they (Fed) don't understand...but for Trump, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

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Fact: The Fed would have made a different decision if BLS corrected its data sooner.

Author: NedoftheHill (44963 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 8:10 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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That's not necessarily true...the Fed relies on more data than just the BLS'...specifically, PCE

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 8:31 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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data, as explained in the attached article. Trump's 'Helter-Skelter' economic actions thus far haven't made it any easier for the Fed to do its job and keep Inflation under control. DJT has himself to blame....IMO, that's a fact.

Link: https://www.scotsmanguide.com/news/the-fed-relies-on-data-to-make-rate-decisions-but-what-if-the-data-is-wrong/#:~:text=It's%20no%20secret%20that%20the,course%20of%20U.S.%20monetary%20policy.

Thread Level: 10

Powell stated it was true in his presser. I think he knows what went into his own decision.

Author: NedoftheHill (44963 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:14 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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He specifically said he relied on the BLS numbers when evaluating the strength of the economy...before the corrected numbers were issued. That provides a strong implication that if he had the corrected numbers, he might have made a different decision.

I'm not arguing a conspiracy theory. I'm just stating facts. You don't like the facts for some reason I haven't quite figured out (why don't you like these facts?), so you argue against them. I suppose you have a partisan narrative you need to push, and that narrative is threatened somehow by these facts. But, I'm not arguing your narrative. You can lie all you want; I don't really care.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 11

He uses bad data as a club, it's 1984 for this "Democratic Socialist".

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:35 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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Thread Level: 4

Once it became politicized, it became useless.

Author: LanceManion (8259 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 1:59 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
Thread Level: 3

Agree, they need to come up with a better way of collecting the data.

Author: PaND (2809 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 1:21 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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Thread Level: 4

They can use similar methodologies as other countries.

Author: Shadow_of_the_Dome (4641 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:34 pm on Aug 12, 2025
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For example, in Brazil, you send the government basic payroll data with an occupation code and industry code for each employee every month. It is pretty easy to compare the changes over time.

Kind of like the W-2 data employers send to the government annually—just with an occupation code added to each record.


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