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The Pot calling the Kettle Black?????

Author: lmcdonald (1278 Posts - Joined: Sep 9, 2020)

Posted at 11:35 am on Aug 15, 2025
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Dems complaining about what they do best.........

Link: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/democrats-plan-nationwide-protests-over-redistricting

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Thread Level: 2

GOP is behind Dems in this practice.

Author: Nigel Tufnel (8075 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:02 pm on Aug 15, 2025
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Because they've already implemented it so well, they have less ammo here to effect change going forward. They are pissed that GOP is doing what they have already done so well. Let's hope they make this a major issue, as it looks like they are prepared to do.

'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
Thread Level: 3

Ridiculous statement. But it fits with the persecutiion complex.

Author: Chris94 (37111 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:50 pm on Aug 15, 2025
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Thread Level: 4

Refute with facts or data, as I have below? No, stick with knee-jerk emotion.

Author: Nigel Tufnel (8075 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:58 pm on Aug 15, 2025
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'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
Thread Level: 3

Keep inventing a narrative that is just baloney. Typical.

Author: jimbasil (52984 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 1:48 pm on Aug 15, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 4

Here is the source of the 'invented narrative'

Author: Nigel Tufnel (8075 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:23 pm on Aug 15, 2025
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"Here’s a bit of math, provided by the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee, that shows how effective the party has been at gerrymandering. States with Democratic state legislative majorities currently control the lines for about 35 GOP seats—all that’s left after their aggressive maps. By contrast, Republican state legislative majorities control the lines for 55 Democratic seats. The difference is the GOP advantage in the war Democrats have escalated. Whoops."

Carry on.


Link: Gerrymander

'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
Thread Level: 5

The GOP aren’t allowed to play by the same rules as the left.

Author: TampaIrish (11804 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:32 pm on Aug 15, 2025
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Captain Democracy and Constitution Boy will scream if that happens. And the Dems never do anything wrong. No one said a word about Illinois when it happened but now it’s bad for both sides. Weird right?

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
Thread Level: 2

Newsom is calling for Nationwide Independent Redistricting…Huge Difference, since not one Republican

Author: TyroneIrish (21465 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:47 pm on Aug 15, 2025
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Supports it…yet we all say it’s the right way to go.

You should be supporting him…not Trump.


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Thread Level: 3

Where do you think it’s needed and why?

Author: WoodstockIrish (14771 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:06 pm on Aug 15, 2025
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This ought to be good.

Thread Level: 3

How would it be independent?

Author: iairishcheeks (28118 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:58 pm on Aug 15, 2025
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You might be surprised to know that your own state stands alone in fighting Gerrymandering with its

Author: TyroneIrish (21465 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:21 pm on Aug 15, 2025
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model for Redistricting...glad to have the opportunity to do my "Good Deed" for the day...you're welcome.

Link: https://www.ncsl.org/redistricting-and-census/the-iowa-model-for-redistricting?__cf_chl_tk=y4STcTXSCeEiVHcQpyGrqbMV7OYhvsoWs6Wpouk5PQI-1755278059-1.0.1.1-K.ZSS64_8NUHLM2JpNmTcVy1pIqMb.GrsJQqCerpG5E

Thread Level: 5

Why does Iowa get a yellow on this map?

Author: iairishcheeks (28118 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:39 pm on Aug 15, 2025
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My question remains, how would it be independent?

Link: https://gerrymander.princeton.edu/

Thread Level: 6

Tyrone only wishes to hold the hands of those who would follow him into his Marxist back alley…

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33713 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:09 pm on Aug 15, 2025
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I refuse (for the moment) to believe you’re that ill informed on the differences between Communism

Author: TyroneIrish (21465 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:05 pm on Aug 15, 2025
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and Democratic Socialism…but just in case it’s true, do a search under my Username with the keywords “Communism”, “Democratic”, “Socialism”.

And just in case you choose not to do that…Communism doesn’t allow private ownership, while Democratic Socialism does, plus it depends on more than one party elections…much like a few very democratic countries in Europe.

Bottom Line…you’re dead wrong.


Thread Level: 6

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Author: TyroneIrish (21465 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:58 pm on Aug 15, 2025
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I can’t hold your hand forever, Cheeks…time to put in your own ‘sweat equity’

Author: TyroneIrish (21465 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:58 pm on Aug 15, 2025
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Thread Level: 7

That's one way to lose an argument.

Author: iairishcheeks (28118 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:08 pm on Aug 15, 2025
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I'm not even trying to argue with you here. How do we make it "independent"?

Thread Level: 8

All you need to do is search the web …I’ve already given you one example…perhaps not

Author: TyroneIrish (21465 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 5:54 pm on Aug 15, 2025
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Perfect, but much better than average. Don’t be a Lazy Bones…fend for yourself.

Thread Level: 9

Why do you post here?

Author: iairishcheeks (28118 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:32 pm on Aug 15, 2025
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If you can just have AI summaries do all the work, why even bother coming here and debating people that you don't actually want to debate?

Thread Level: 10

In this thread I gave you a detailed summary of your own state's stand out method of Redistricting

Author: TyroneIrish (21465 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:11 am on Aug 16, 2025
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from the NCSL...which in this case is not an AI overview...not that there's anything wrong with that. Since you had no clue, it should have answered your question as to "How would it be Independent?"...btw, there are several other suggestions, but as the following excerpt shows, Iowa makes a special effort...better than most... to make the process truly "Independent".

If you don't like Iowa's approach, say why and propose your own...that's how a debate should play out. Warning:...then you'll have to defend your own recommendation...scary stuff for a Libertarian ;-).


Thread Level: 2

Gerrymandering is always bad. Trump is now demanding a whole new round.

Author: Chris94 (37111 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:40 pm on Aug 15, 2025
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If Texas does this, California will offset it.

Round and round it goes.


Thread Level: 3

Yes, but people are moving from California to Texas.

Author: iairishcheeks (28118 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:12 pm on Aug 15, 2025
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And it's not for the weather.

Thread Level: 4

It’s for the cows.

Author: TampaIrish (11804 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:14 pm on Aug 15, 2025
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I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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You mean call attention to Texas and the GOP gerrymandering? You mean when dems had a bill

Author: jimbasil (52984 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 11:40 am on Aug 15, 2025
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that would have stopped gerrymandering districts for political gain not one republican voted for it.


It's a topic of great concern and should have been addressed decades ago
but it didn't suit those in power at the time and has been an open sore.


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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 3

It's nice to see the Democrats back where they belong: whining about the activities of adults.

Author: LanceManion (8259 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 11:47 am on Aug 15, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
Thread Level: 4

I think we need to form districts around gender identity.

Author: iairishcheeks (28118 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:52 am on Aug 15, 2025
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If we could figure out where all of the intersex people live, probably Manhattan, we could ensure that they have a voice.

In all seriousness, the whole gerrymandering thing is completely fucked. I don't see an easy solution.


Thread Level: 5

It's sort of like Congressional investment in stocks. There probably should be federal ballot items

Author: LanceManion (8259 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 12:34 pm on Aug 15, 2025
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so that people can vote on these things. I have to imagine 90% of the population would oppose both of these things.

Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
Thread Level: 6

In principle I like that, but in practice I have concerns.

Author: iairishcheeks (28118 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:55 pm on Aug 15, 2025
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If we were to "man on the street" the gerrymandering issue, would the average voter even understand what the term means?

What if we ask AI to redraw all of the districts and propose several maps that could be voted on?


Thread Level: 7

Yeah, sort of the problem with democracy, people are f'ing morons.

Author: LanceManion (8259 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 1:41 pm on Aug 15, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
Thread Level: 5

Genitalia-mandering?

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33713 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:54 am on Aug 15, 2025
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I've always thought the name "Gerry" was kind of gay

Author: iairishcheeks (28118 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:56 am on Aug 15, 2025
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Not that there's anything wrong with it.

Thread Level: 7

Is Jerry ok? Asking for a friend.

Author: LanceManion (8259 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 12:34 pm on Aug 15, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Wouldn't surprise me if these dipshits endorse Newsom in 28.

Author: LanceManion (8259 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 11:39 am on Aug 15, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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