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Encouraging press conference at White House with European leaders.

Author: conorlarkin (21339 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:36 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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Trump’s tone, respect and embrace of Zelenskyy and European leaders was what we should have seen from the jump.

Encouraging for sure.

It appears Trump now you understands the critical importance of providing substantive security guarantees for Ukraine, even if it means Ukraine has to concede grounds.

Putin remains the evil monster. Ukraine is the victim.

I genuinely hope Trump can successfully meditate a resolution for peace.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris

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Thread Level: 2

Definitely a better meeting with Zelensky this time. Kudos to Trump and our ALLIES

Author: Domer From Hell (16877 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:38 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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We're all born bald baby!
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He gets points for trying, that’s for sure

Author: Chris94 (37111 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:47 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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An imperfect moderator, no doubt, but at least he is trying.

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Put me down in the column of cynical. Like his theft of classified documents, I see

Author: jimbasil (52984 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 7:28 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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that as his way to monetize his presidency in the first term. A fatwad scorpion at all times.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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The problem is that Trump is known to change course based upon the last person he meets.

Author: conorlarkin (21339 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:45 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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This is a function of Trump simply not knowing anything.

So, he shakes his head yes to Putin, and then today, he does the same with Europe’s very capable leadership.

My guess is that Rubio is our best hope to hold the line against Putin.

I will be surprised if Putin budges. I still believe Putin will only come to the peace table when he is on the mat. Per a piece I read today:

“Ultimately, the diplomatic problem the Trump administration faces is how to persuade Russia to accept an independent and sovereign Ukraine. All the signs from Moscow are that it has not backed off from a maximalist position. The only plausible way to end the war is to create a battlefield reality that convinces Putin that he cannot make more gains, that he will pay a massive price for continuing the war, and that this reality is unlikely to change. That means that the United States and its allies need to, paradoxically, get serious about arming Ukraine for a protracted conflict and putting pressure on Russia. That is the only way to create the conditions for successful negotiations to end the war.”


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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The problem (assuming it is a problem) is that he negotiates in public.

Author: NedoftheHill (44963 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:30 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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He is always talking to the next person. After he talks to one side, he immediately starts talking to the other side in the press. You can interpret him as changing his course based on the previous conversation, but I think the course always remains the same, and he is just trying to steer the next person immediately...he doesn't wait for a private meeting which might take days or weeks to set up.

Again, the odd thing is that he negotiates in public, so he takes multiple positions, in public (because that's how you negotiate...start at one point, and move to another point, to allow the other side to save face, hopefully meeting at a point we can be satisfied with). Not what I would do necessarily (the public part), but it seems to work.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Exactly.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:12 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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I think it is kind of brilliant.

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:36 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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It'd be like MF announcing Buchner as the starter. Keep the opponent guessing.

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Trump is clueless and lacks a moral compass. That is the reality Ned.

Author: conorlarkin (21339 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:34 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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Trump has never understood that Putin is the problem, is the monster.

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Lacks a moral compass? Says the guy who votes for permanent child genital mutilation.

Author: NedoftheHill (44963 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:26 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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You are just like the Tick Tock guy in Tampa's video link above. TDS. Get help.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:12 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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You lost the election because your party did not have a clue.

Author: Hensou (8773 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 11:03 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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Author: Hensou (8773 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 11:04 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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Rubio is power hungry celebrity nymphomaniac. He has no attachment to patriotism or democracy.

Author: jimbasil (52984 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 10:17 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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It’s sad we’re forced to think and believe our leaders are honest and forthright but trumpism and the latent Gingrich republicanism is all about the grab. The grab of money through power.

Link: Here’s a clip you might be interested in.

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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Rubio is a nymphomaniac. There's a new one.

Author: NedoftheHill (44963 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:35 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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That's the thing with you Democrats. Always trying to control people's sex lives.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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You're arguing with an insane lunatic.

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:41 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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Jim is beginning the demonization process of the post Trump R candidates. Interestingly, they will

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:14 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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all be Hitler's in Jim's mind. Jim is ill. TDS.

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Comprehension ain’t yer thang is it?!

Author: jimbasil (52984 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 11:02 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Whining is not articulate thought, Jim.

Author: Hensou (8773 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 11:05 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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We’re always putting you down, Jim,

Author: Hensou (8773 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 7:51 pm on Aug 18, 2025
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