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A.I. and its detrimental effect on this board.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:56 pm on Aug 21, 2025
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We have seen more and more AI use from a few posters here on this board (who they are is not important at this time).

Instead of backing up their opinions with their own reasoning and experiences, they lazily request a defense of what they already want to believe rather than explain (and thus better consider) their own reasons for their stance.

It’s really disappointing because it misses the point of what is the real value of these discussions. The AI product is sterile and prepackaged and inauthentic. It’s use also implies that the user is no longer thinking for himself - not only in the construction of the post, but on what views they carry on an issue. It presumes, “I believe whatever my tribe wants to support, so I’ll use an AI programmed for my tribe to formulate the thoughts that I will incorporate as my own”

It’s’ unnecessary because nobody is giving out grades.

It’s embarrassing for them because the sudden change in writing style is painfully obvious after reading thousands of posts from the poster already.

I’ll repeat my motto: You don’t have to agree, just be genuine in your beliefs and make an effort because you’re asking others to make the effort to read and consider your post.


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Author: TakethetrainKnute (33713 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:09 am on Aug 22, 2025
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All excellent points.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:55 am on Aug 22, 2025
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Author: TakethetrainKnute (33713 Posts - Original UHND Member)

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Author: TakethetrainKnute (33713 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:09 am on Aug 22, 2025
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GCN punked you far right loons all week and this is all you've got? Weak.

Author: ND521 (9565 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 2:07 am on Aug 22, 2025
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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This borders on outright Hilarity...just a guess, but the leader in AI use is me...by a mile...and

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:44 pm on Aug 21, 2025
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the poster who leads in saying he 'Ignores' me, is none other than Baron...small wonder that he doesn't call out the Username of the "Offenders"...That said, after being labeled "Link Boy" ;-) for awhile, due to 'too much' info in backing up posts...now Baron is bent out of shape by the use of a tool...AI...that is based on MANY links...all condensed in the creation of a summary addressing a question of interest...which...unlike Baron...I read and verify Before Posting so that it mirrors my other research on topics we've typically been over many, many times.

Actually, I'm in the midst of reading a book on AI that is Very Bullish on the use of that 'Tool' for everything from Chess Strategies, to something that should be dear to BVZ's heart...Medical Science, including DNA "Writing" and RNA Designing for the treatment of Diseases and extending lifetimes by decades. Maybe it's just me, but I don't find such uses of AI as being in any way. shape or form...LAZY.

Just one person's opinion, but Baron is fulfilling the role of UHND OF "Luddite" perfectly...

Perhaps one day, Baron will find the courage to engage me, like he used to, and dialogue about such an issue...could happen...


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It might have been a mouse trap, you might be the mouse.

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:06 am on Aug 22, 2025
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Or you may be neurotic, have an inferiority complex and something equating to battered-wife syndrome.

Baron doesn't want to engage with you, it would be most healthy for you to accept that.

Are you still reading that book of the guy I think is irrelevant to the AI conversation?


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Nah…it’s just Baron venting his frustration for painting himself into a corner while I post truth

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:28 am on Aug 22, 2025
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that counters his misinformation…unburdened by his made up nonsense.

You and I can debate freely and that’s what a Forum is intended to provide…sadly, Baron…like his Avatar, DJT,.. doesn’t have the courage and confidence that allows him to engage with a fellow alum who has access to medical specialists with equal…and in the case of COVID-19…better medical expertise than he does.

Being an ND Alum, I feel a duty to confront another Alum who spreads misinformation and sullies the good name of this University…so Baron can expect more posts that use Links and AI generated overviews.

As for reading “The Coming Wave”, I’m currently enjoying Suleyman’s comments regarding Jennifer Doudna’s CRISPR creation while re-reading her book, “CODE Breaker”. We can discuss that and other AI related issues…with or without Baron’s thoughts…


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What if you are wrong?

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:31 am on Aug 22, 2025
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LOL…the only way we’ll know is if Baron and I engage over this…what are the odds off him finding the

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:49 am on Aug 22, 2025
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courage?

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It is an essential introspection that everyone from Newton to Einstein to Musk has asked themselves.

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:52 am on Aug 22, 2025
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Be sure to let Baron know that...as for myself, I'm on record repeatedly inviting other posters to

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:10 pm on Aug 22, 2025
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challenge me on anything I present...in order to find out who's right or wrong...do you find fault with that?...do you have something to challenge me with?

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That is an exercise in futility, you change the subject or ignore the salient points presented to u.

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:32 pm on Aug 22, 2025
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The futility lies in you constantly making “Points” but not accepting

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:36 pm on Aug 22, 2025
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Responses…and never imagining that you’re wrong.

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ChatGPT says I am the best poster here.

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:26 pm on Aug 22, 2025
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This will be shocking to no one, but I have a podcast for you.

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:27 pm on Aug 21, 2025
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There may indeed be a diminishing return to relying on AI to think for you because over time your ability to craft effective prompts diminishes.

AI is a tool, that's how to think about it. But you are the agent that uses the tool to get what you want more efficiently.


Link: https://youtu.be/5wXlmlIXJOI?si=vrK0oS7f1sG1nXaR

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Kind of explains Tyrone.

Author: NedoftheHill (44963 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:59 pm on Aug 21, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Faux Irish!

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:16 am on Aug 22, 2025
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You're saying he's a tool?

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:08 am on Aug 22, 2025
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Is it one that begins w ad of wife telling me how her husband stays rock hard for 3 hrs?

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:37 pm on Aug 21, 2025
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Cuz those are usually the best ones.

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No, between you, Tampa and Manion, do you guys think I'm a hedonist?

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:44 pm on Aug 21, 2025
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No, no! I’m just asking for a friend who might want to know.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:46 pm on Aug 21, 2025
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You're the doctor, I'm the shaman.

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:12 am on Aug 22, 2025
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Try theobromine, CBG, and Tongkat Ali.

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Heck, even Junior Mints &Alka Seltzer would work if it’s tested on the chick in the ad.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:20 am on Aug 22, 2025
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You're going to awaken the Jimbecile if you start talking about hot chicks.

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:27 am on Aug 22, 2025
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Sydney Sweeney is a Nazi!

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/NrJyN2Kgt4XKjcD.ofvmNQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTE0NDI7Y2Y9d2VicA--/https://media.zenfs.com/en/theblast_73/8e68e4790d52d9491bcfdc43160bcb0f

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Ok! 3 hours from now, I’ll try to watch that podcast.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:32 am on Aug 22, 2025
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How do you know?

Author: Chris94 (37111 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:45 pm on Aug 21, 2025
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Serious question, from someone who tries to detect AI on a regular basis....

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Seems like it’s going to have to improve a great deal

Author: WoodstockIrish (14766 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:13 am on Aug 22, 2025
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It is painfully obvious right now when something is written by AI. It’s also hilarious that the Linkster is now bragging that his posts are the compilation and distillation of many links. He’s proud of it. His responses are insufferable.

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It’s not, actually. Teenagers are way ahead in this.

Author: Chris94 (37111 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:23 am on Aug 22, 2025
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Indeed. But it’s painfully embarrassing when unintelligent older people use it….

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:56 am on Aug 22, 2025
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….have you given any serious thought to my suggestion? Or would such a rigorous solution decrease the people who will sign up for the class (I could see that being a problem)? I am asking seriously with no insults intended.

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The guy who falsely claims an ND degree also falsely represents AI as his own thoughts?…

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:54 am on Aug 22, 2025
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…well that’s not a surprise. Did he acknowledge his use of it, or represent t it as his own inorder to try to look smarter?

At the real Notre Dame, the latter would be a violation of Du Lac, and it would get you kicked out of school. Good thing he never got in.

But quite honestly Woodstock, I was thinking of someone else with a bit more finesse.


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This "Faux Irish" campaign is sounding more and more like DJT's "Birther Movement" ;-)...same M.O.

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:13 pm on Aug 22, 2025
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Obama embarrasses Trump...TyroneIrish embarrasses BaronvonZemo...both DJT and BVZ start attack campaigns on their foe's origins...;-)...Both easily disproved, but they can't help themselves...they have to vent their anger...it is what it is.

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He (FauxIrish/Linkster) sure seems to be defending himself a lot

Author: WoodstockIrish (14766 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:08 am on Aug 22, 2025
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So he also seems to think it’s him. I’m intrigued now as to who you were alluding to?

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Well, now know where he goes to to get his Notre Dame related information.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:37 pm on Aug 22, 2025
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I mentioned it - an advantage that you do not have…..

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:22 pm on Aug 21, 2025
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When you read many genuine posts from the same poster, you develop a keen recognition of their writing style, thought process, vocabulary, speaking style, character depth, and mental acuity.

When these things suddenly change in this day and age, there is but one answer - and it is not night school.

You have a much harder job since you are not afforded that luxury. But I can tell you what I would do (it was something that an ND professor did for my writing class way back in the day for different reasons…….

….sit them in your class and have them write with you watching them as they are asked to write their essay in an hour or two. Also, do not tell them what the essay will be about - just that it will incorporate the topics and principles that you covered (otherwise they will just use GPT ahead of time).

I realize that some of your students (if not most will not feel comfortable with a pencil and a Blue Book), but even with laptops, you can roam and get a view of what is on their screen. You can also have them verifiably disconnect from the internet as well.
The essays won’t be as good, but everyone will be under the same restrictions so it will be fair.

It’s really your only option as AI will get so good that those programs profs used in the past to catch AI will be outfoxed (I assume they are already being outfoxed).


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Agree 1000%.

Author: NedoftheHill (44963 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:41 pm on Aug 21, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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It’s also deceitful to represent AI product as your own work/thoughts without noting it.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:11 am on Aug 22, 2025
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But it really sticks out on a poster who rarely strings together a worthy thought or two with proper syntax and clean language who suddenly spews long-winded directed narratives full of political cliches and buzz words in sterile fashion.

Btw, as with search engines, AI is only as good as its user as well as its programming parameters.


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