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Classified docs investigation. Compare/contrast the legal merits of:

Author: Quest4twelve (6999 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 8:16 am on Aug 25, 2025
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Trump, Biden, Pence and now John Bolton

Does one seem more credible than the other based on what's publicly known?


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Thread Level: 2

I know this is new to you, but only Trump had The Presidential Records Act, the others did not.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:32 am on Aug 25, 2025
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Biden was VP (not President) when he stole those records.

Of Biden, Bolton, and Trump, only Trump did not steal records. He did it legally.


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What exactly does that mean Baron? Trump can walk out as a citizen holding on to any classified

Author: Quest4twelve (6999 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 3:05 pm on Aug 25, 2025
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record he likes until he doesn't want to have it anymore?

Thread Level: 3

Why do you worship an obvious liar and traitor?

Author: ND521 (9565 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 1:09 pm on Aug 25, 2025
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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I don't think anyone worships the man, we like his policies.

Author: THEISMANCARR (17295 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 1:19 pm on Aug 25, 2025
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You like Don's policy of submission to Putin? Or his policy of using military vs US citizens?

Author: ND521 (9565 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 2:30 pm on Aug 25, 2025
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How is he using military against US citizens?

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 4:40 pm on Aug 25, 2025
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I like his actual policies for most part. Your fantasy claims about his policies can be ignored.

Author: NedoftheHill (44963 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 4:21 pm on Aug 25, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Ha! Good one…Baron said hold his beer!!

Author: Domer From Hell (16877 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:09 pm on Aug 25, 2025
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We're all born bald baby!
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I have no need of a beer holder with your flat top hair cut :)

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 4:38 pm on Aug 25, 2025
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Partisanship + cluelessness = Trump is always innocent

Author: Chris94 (37111 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:04 pm on Aug 25, 2025
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That act does not allow former presidents to keep classified documents.

But why do I bother.


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No, that was to be litigated until it was ruled Dems had illegally appointed Jack Smith & dropped it

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 2:32 pm on Aug 25, 2025
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Trump had an argument that would have been litigated in court. You might disagree, but it was a reasonable case to bring, and the rule of law would have been followed based on that decision. The Dems dropped the case because they knew they would likely lose. (Dems had broken many longstanding precedents int heir efforts to hunt Trump including raiding his home in Mara Lago in an upcoming election year while Trump's lawyers were in discussions with the National Archives about the issue. When they dropped the case against Trump, they comically claimed that they didn't want to violate the longstanding precedent of prosecuting a sitting president. Of course, precedent never stopped them before with Trump).
D's could have easily restarted the case against Trump legally, but the did not (it was losing ground for them politically so they cut bait).

The Dems illegally appointed Smith as special council without approval of the senate because the Dem WH administration were hunting Trump in a coordinated effort between the DOJ and the White House...ie weaponized govt lawfare.

Why do I even bother? I know that you can't remember all of this, and I know that you don't read enough on the topic from viewpoints other than from your echochamber.


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Please link a copy of the judicial ruling you referenced.

Author: ND521 (9565 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 2:53 pm on Aug 25, 2025
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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Google is even your friend.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:27 pm on Aug 25, 2025
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One did not cooperate and obstructed justice

Author: Chris94 (37111 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:33 am on Aug 25, 2025
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The rest did not.

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So Biden's "cooperating" was withholding more records four different times?! Wrong again.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:28 am on Aug 25, 2025
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If you steal something but years later "cooperate" no crime is committed.

Author: PaND (2809 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 10:39 am on Aug 25, 2025
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According to the board lefties.

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One of them wrote a letter lying that there were no more documents in their possession…one of them

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:13 am on Aug 25, 2025
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Has video tapes proving there were and showing them being moved by staff to other parts of their residence…one of them falsely claimed Top Secret Documents in their possession belonged to them and not the U.S. government…

Donald Trump should be in Prison right now…were it not for “Lawfare” by judge Aileen Cannon.
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Define steal in all of these cases if you don't mind?

Author: Quest4twelve (6999 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 10:43 am on Aug 25, 2025
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Nice.

Author: Protagonist (1124 Posts - Joined: Oct 21, 2012)

Posted at 10:14 am on Aug 25, 2025
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Hillary cooperated with Bleach Bit and a hammer - if only Chris had concerns when it was his own.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 2:36 pm on Aug 25, 2025
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Hillary? How did she enter this conversation side show Baron?

Author: Quest4twelve (6999 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 3:12 pm on Aug 25, 2025
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This has passed you by. Look forward to seeing you soon.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 4:54 pm on Aug 25, 2025
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Joe Biden

Author: LanceManion (8259 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 8:57 am on Aug 25, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Could you provide some facts, possibly in chart form? Otherwise just seems like whining again.

Author: LanceManion (8259 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 8:29 am on Aug 25, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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