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Another step toward dictatorship

Author: Chris94 (37111 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:53 pm on Aug 25, 2025
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Prepare to deny that training the military to "suppress crime" (i.e. intimidate enemies) matters, hicks.

Also, you're all cool with Trump being granted a 10% stake in Intel? Public ownership of private companies is a-o-k, socialism haters?

Also, be aware that is EXACTLY what Putin did, over and over. He was granted a free stake in Russian companies, and accepted on behalf of a grateful Russian nation. Then, quietly, often years later, those shares were sold to Putin's family or close cronies.

It was straight-up extortion. The companies were given an offer they couldn't refuse. They essentially wrote it off (informally, obviously) as double-tax - just like Intel did last week.

That is how he has become (probably) the world's richest man.

Trump is doing what Putin did, step by step.


Link: https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/25/politics/trump-executive-order-national-guard-units-crime

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Thread Level: 2

The USA has a 10% share in Intel. Not Trump.

Author: Hensou (8774 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 7:14 pm on Aug 25, 2025
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BTW our military personnel are US Citizens.
You defame them by suggesting they are Trumps personal
Militia. You are completely unhinged.


Thread Level: 3

So you’re cool with the USA having a 10% share in Intel? Public ownership of a private company?

Author: Chris94 (37111 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:41 pm on Aug 25, 2025
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The WSJ editorial page - hardly raging lefties - condemned it no uncertain terms.

But it’s Trump, so you’re fine with it.


Thread Level: 4

General Motors?

Author: Hensou (8774 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 7:43 pm on Aug 25, 2025
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Thread Level: 5

Totally different!

Author: Iggle (12755 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 8:36 pm on Aug 25, 2025
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Liberalism Rule #8. Trust me, he didn't remember this until it was mentioned, but his response will

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:32 pm on Aug 25, 2025
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indeed be "Well, THAT's TOTOALLT DIFFERENT!" while it is actually the same thing that he had no problem with when his guy did it.

BaronVonZemo's Rules of Liberalism:

Liberalism Rule #1 - accuse others of that which you are/do.
Liberalism Rule #2 - the rules apply to thee and not me
Liberalism Rule #3 - We know what is best, thus the ends justify the means.
Liberalism Rule #4 - We believe ourselves to be smarter thus, we cannot admit that we are wrong.
i) Admitting mistakes undermines the premise of being smarter, ergo self correction is not possible.
Liberalism Rule #5 - What didn’t work last time, will work next time (see 4 i.)
Liberalism Rule #6 - When we lose, change the rules.
i) Whenever convenient, change the definition to suit our goal.
Liberalism Rule #7 - Appeasement (using other people's money - usually taxpayers) is the best deterrent to conflict.
Liberalism Rule #8 - Totally Differentism - when we do something that we don’t like others doing, it is always “totally different”.
Liberalism Rule #9 - Equity through inequity (any difference must be equalized by pulling down the
unaffected party. Vengeance is preferable).
Liberalism Rule #10 - We support our representative speaking regardless of the truth (in contrast to
conservatives who support the truth regardless of the representative speaking it).
Liberalism Rule #11 - We vote on personality over policy.
Liberalism Rule #12 - Genetics are selective. We believe that sexuality and guilt are genetic, but gender is not. Scientific proof is not required.
Liberalism Rule #13 - Do SOMETHING! When a crisis happens, do SOMETHING! It doesn't have to have to work, but it must: a) make us feel better which is more important than actually solving the crisis, and b) advance the liberal agenda.
Liberalism Rule #14 - "You’ll have to show us a lot more than rock solid, irrefutable evidence”.
Liberalism Rule #15 - There are no universal truths. The truth changes to fit our needs.
Liberalism Rule #16 - The Expert Threshold. If a false narrative has enough “experts” backing it, it becomes truth regardless of evidence to the contrary. “Experts” are defined as those who support the narrative, and they can be conjured if necessary (because of Liberalism Rule #3).
Liberalism Rule #17 - Charity ends at home. It is accomplished through the government with other people’s money.
Liberalism Rule #18 - When failure or bad behavior is completely undeniable, distance yourself from complicity to salve your guilty conscience.
Liberalism Rule #19 - Guns don’t kill people, liberals with guns kill people. Violence comes from the Left.
Liberalism Rule #20 - Only guilty life is precious. Innocence makes us uncomfortable and thus must be eliminated.
Liberalism Rule #21 - "I'm a moderate". We are not liberal, we are "moderates" politically - despite supporting every liberal tenant. This is because we consider ourselves to be the fairest and also because we care too deeply about what others think of us to just admit what we really are (See Rule #22).
Liberalism Rule #22 - “We care too deeply about what others think of us.” (This is why we feel the constant need to virtue signal and try to buy foreign approval with handouts).
Liberalism Rule #23 - Make it about race! "Whenever we are losing an argument, make it about race".
New Rule #24 - “Both sides do it.” Guilt from our bad behavior is best tolerated when diluted to all, and no one can point a finger.


Thread Level: 2

More evidence that we have Putin's "Mole" in our Oval Office...hard to get much worse than that...

Author: TyroneIrish (21463 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:50 pm on Aug 25, 2025
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Vlad doesn't have to fire a shot in order to take us down from the inside.

Thread Level: 2

Im never cool with government ownership of private enterprise and I would rather provide more

Author: Curly1918 (16697 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 6:43 pm on Aug 25, 2025
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Funding for municipal police than use the national guard. I would tie it to ending sanctuary cities.

Thread Level: 3

Remember the GM bail out when govt owned 61% company to rescue it like Intel now?

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:13 pm on Aug 25, 2025
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Was just recalling that as I listen to these libs get so outraged over a 10% buy/bail out of a critical industry that would otherwise make us dependent on foreign sources.

Obama wanted that….Bush started the ball rolling, but Obama owned it…..and it proved to be a successful move.
No complaints from the libs then.


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