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LAT..."FireAid's concerts raised $100 million for recovery. Here's how it's being distributed"

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:30 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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Turns out, 'FireAid' has done quite a bit of good for the L.A. fire victims...Did Joe Rogan and friends mention any of this? Compare and Contrast with Steve Bannon's outright stealing of donations for his "Build The Wall" Scam...where is your outrage, fellas?

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When the wildfires ripped through the Pacific Palisades and Altadena in January, Michael Flood, chief executive of the L.A. Regional Food Bank, knew the demand for aid would explode.

“It was especially high in January through March as so many people were displaced and lost power and water,” Flood said. He saw demand for food relief rise 30%. “It is still high,” he said. “People had to move in with family and friends around the county. We did a food bank in Inglewood in February and we saw just how many had been displaced by both fires.”

His organization, which provides food assistance to hundreds of thousands of Angelenos every month, got significant help from the FireAid benefit concert in January. That show, produced by Clippers owner Steve Ballmer and music mogul Irving Azoff, featured dozens of A-list musicians like Olivia Rodrigo, Billie Eilish and the Red Hot Chili Peppers performing at the Kia Forum and Intuit Dome. The event — along with matching donations from Ballmer and his wife Connie — raised $100 million for wildfire relief.

Six months after the fires, The Times individually contacted over a hundred organizations that received FireAid funds, nonprofits in food aid, housing, mental health, childcare and ecological resilience. A review of the beneficiaries’ grants and work showed how FireAid was an urgent lifeline in the worst of the disaster and beyond.

“We want people to understand that there’s been a thoughtful process behind this, and our top priority was trying to do what people needed, and do what’s best for fire survivors,” said Lisa Cleri Reale, a member of FireAid’s grant advisory committee.

Yet the grant recipients are still grappling with the deep, intertwined needs of a scarred Los Angeles. That work will require investment for years to come.

“The high cost of rent, and food prices being 25% higher, it all puts pressure on people already struggling to meet basic needs,” Flood said. “Even though we’re six months from the fires, there’s still such a significant need.”

In between sets, FireAid highlighted individual stories of incalculable tragedy. One family, the Williams of Altadena, recalled onstage that “At 3:30 in the morning, the warning hit our phones. We grabbed what we could — our grandmother’s special clock, our father’s ashes, our 47-year-old parrot Hank. Among the five of us standing here, we lost four homes and we’re struggling to find places to live.”

For music fans calling in donations during Stevie Nicks’ and Sting’s sets though, it was fair to ask how those specific groups were chosen, and how they were making a difference to families like the Williams. In late May, the Palisades Community Council sent a letter to the Annenberg Foundation and FireAid organizers. The critical letter asked for a full accounting of the grants, and clarity on the decision-making process behind them.

The FireAid organization responded with the full timeline and the grant amounts they’d dispersed, along with plans for future rounds and applications for small groups to apply.

“This is very different from other philanthropy. We have a different magnifying glass looking at us,” Reale said. “There are people who bought tickets to these concerts, who donated on the website, the musicians who gave their time, these people want to know that their contributions are doing what’s best. We have fire survivors as our top priority, but we’re also asking — can we look at the FireAid donors and explain our decisions in a tangible way?”


L.A. has never experienced loss on this scale. Measuring progress six months after the fires is hard and painful

In breaking down the group’s grant-making process, FireAid representatives showed how its earliest priorities were organizations providing direct cash, food and shelter to survivors.

In February, $1 million went to the L.A. Regional Food Bank, followed by a second grant of $250,000. The money went to pay extra drivers, forklift operators and warehouse workers to help process and distribute donations after the fires. “We’re a year-round program, so when disaster strikes, that gets laid on top of it,” Flood said.

With its February grant, the group Inclusive Action distributed $500 cash grants to landscapers, street vendors and other outdoor workers who lost jobs or homes in the fires. The Change Reaction, a direct-aid group, got $2 million from the first round of FireAid grants.

Change Reaction’s president, Wade Trimmer, said that the funds provided 2,500 recipients with grants up to $15,000 for immediate rent and transportation needs.


“The strategy was to stabilize as many households as we could because when you have stability, you make better decisions,” Trimmer said. “Even for wealthy people in the Palisades, it was still a full-time job and an absolute nightmare dealing with it all. But in Altadena, there was an older population with multigenerational households, so for every house that burned, that affected two or three households.”

That money helped sustain Elizabeth Jackson, the owner of White Lotus, a workout studio in the Palisades that employed 14 fitness instructors. Jackson lost both her home and business in the fires. “We lost every single client at the studio because our clients lost their homes,” Jackson said. “They’re all starting their lives over.”

Through a White Lotus regular, Jackson got in touch with Change Reaction, which used some of its FireAid funds to give $1,000 to each White Lotus staffer and replace fire-damaged equipment so Jackson could reopen in a smaller space nearby. She hopes to return to her old property once it is rebuilt.

“That support was a bright light in all the ugliness that happened,” she said. “It’s awful to lose the studio, but being on the receiving side of that beauty, it’s even more powerful than the negative. It keeps me going.”


Fire charred two L.A. music utopias. Will they ever recover?

The physical devastation in the burn zones was incomprehensible. For the immediate work of debris removal, flood prevention and vegetation clearing, Team Rubicon got a $250,000 grant. “FireAid demonstrated a clear understanding of the unpredictable nature of wildfire response, and they recognized the importance of flexibility and agility during both the immediate relief and long-term recovery phases,” the group’s spokesperson Thomas Brown said. “They invested in our work at a critical moment.”

Wounded and displaced pets received free veterinary care through groups like the Pasadena Humane Society and Community Animal Medicine Project. Yet many people tasked with helping others were also suffering. Many local nonprofit workers lost homes and workplaces, and needed aid to stay afloat while serving others.

“A lot of our staff were in crisis too, where they lost homes or were the only house left on their street in Altadena,” said Stacey Roth of Hillsides, a Pasadena foster care and youth mental health facility near the Eaton fire zone. One of Hillsides’ main residential buildings suffered significant smoke damage, and the FireAid grant allowed the facility to move its vulnerable population to hotels nearby.

The fire in Pacific Palisades quickly consumed more than 1,200 acres on Jan. 7, pushed by gusting Santa Ana winds. (Brian van der Brug / Los Angeles Times)
Michael Sidman of Jewish Family Service lost his own home in the Eaton fire in Altadena. “I’m very lucky to have a strong support system, but it’s been a nightmare navigating this,” he said. “When you think about people navigating this alone with no family, and unsure how to connect with services, I don’t know what they’d do.”

His organization used its $250,000 grant from FireAid largely for comprehensive disaster case management work, particularly for survivors to manage the FEMA bureaucracy. Other early grants went to groups like Legal Aid, Bet Tzedek Legal and Public Counsel to help with insurance claims, as documents lost in the fires made proving residence and home ownership challenging.

“At first, people didn’t know where they’d spend the night, didn’t know where to get food and were all grieving for their mental health,” Sidman said. “Now we see the need shifting to long-term effects and recovery plans, providing step-by-step facilitation of how to get their lives back on track.”

As the weeks of recovery continued, FireAid’s priorities for its second $25-million grant round expanded to longer-term efforts like insurance and government case management, mental health services, navigating home rebuilding permits and environmental recovery.


“It’s one thing to get people cash aid, but it’s another to help them navigate the future,” Reale said. “Even though rebuilding seemed far away back in January, we knew that people needed to figure out their finances. Some of the fire victims our grantees were working with were on precarious ground financially even before the fires. Our job was to get them into a strong position so when they were ready to rebuild their lives, they wouldn’t be floundering.”

In a bid to blunt gentrification after fire in Altadena, nonprofits look to buy burned lots

The fires significantly disrupted school and childcare for young families, many of whom are now homeless or miles away from family and resources.

Victor Dominguez, president and chief executive of YMCA of Metropolitan Los Angeles, said its FireAid grant provided emergency childcare for a thousand displaced children, along with mental health resources and camp activities for children to reconnect with their fire-scarred neighborhoods.

“Young kids experienced so many traumatic things in their local communities,” Dominguez said. “After the fires, kids and families had an opportunity to go somewhere safe where they trust. Now we are seeing the shock, the reality of this being a long-term experience. We were able to hire more licensed social workers, and the money we received from FireAid helped support that.”


Mental health services remained a complex and ongoing need, especially for youth and children. “I went to the Sears building a couple of months ago, where Pali High is temporally housed, to look at this big wall where kids had posted notes about how they felt post-fires,” Reale said. “You could see that the trauma is still alive and well. Nobody’s healing overnight.”

Much of the aid dispersed was less visible to the public, if lifesaving for its recipients. Yet two marquee FireAid projects involved rebuilding and revamping damaged public green space, including Loma Alta Park, near Altadena. A second site, Palisades Park, will open this summer.

Questions around how to support rebuilding — or where it should happen at all — are complex. FireAid’s third round of grants are likely to focus on longer-term mitigation efforts and environmental resilience to prevent and manage future fires, which are all but inevitable in climate change.

“The reality is we don’t have enough money to rebuild every lot that was lost,” Reale said. “What we can do is wrap ourselves around tools or ways that a lot of people can benefit from when they’re ready to rebuild, and that could be the sustainable models. We can’t rebuild the same way. So we’ll put our money toward things that are helping people with home hardening models, and things to prevent and mitigate future fires.”

For the more intangible cultural communities lost — like the music studios, rehearsal rooms and artists’ homes burned in both fires — recovery will be diffuse. The January concert made FireAid a natural fit as a partner for MusiCares, the Recording Academy’s affiliated charity. That organization declined to say how much FireAid gave specifically, but said that the grant contributed to $6.25 million in fire recovery aid given to 3,200 affected music professionals to help rebuild studios, pay medical bills and evacuate burn sites.

Post-fire gentrification and financial speculating are new major fears. The Palisades has always been a coveted neighborhood, where working-class residents will face challenges returning to any affordable apartments lost. Altadena — home to a long-standing Black community and many blue-collar, intergenerational households — could see longtime residents forced out of their beloved neighborhood yet again, this time by economic forces.

A spokesperson for the Black LA Relief and Recovery Fund said it will use its FireAid grant to “build power among residents so they can return, reclaim and rebuild amidst political and financial threats like land grabs and gentrification.”

FireAid moved heaven and earth to produce a benefit concert on par with the Concert For Bangladesh and Live Aid. Yet that $100 million is just a sliver of the billions in damage inflicted on Altadena and the Palisades. (Applications for the final round of small nonprofit grants are still open).


Reale and other FireAid organizers admit that the scale of aid needed is staggering, universally painful yet fraught with class and racial stratification. The FireAid concert made a profound impact for the groups serving survivors on the ground. It’s also nowhere near enough to meet the need, and never could be.

“At the beginning, we were just worried about basic necessities. Then the reality set in of ‘I have no home, I can’t go back,’” Hillsides’ Roth said. “The need we’re seeing now is helping people process that, and get a path to move forward.”

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Link: https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2025-07-23/where-did-the-fireaid-money-go

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Actual information from FireAidLA, KPMG auditors, rather than conspiracy dudes.

Author: ND521 (9565 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 8:39 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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Link: https://www.fireaidla.org

God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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The actual issue here is that they said the money would directly go to victims.

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:53 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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And it's the uprising of the victims that is causing the controversy, they are asking: where is the money?

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It takes many organizations to address all the disaster issues...organizations have people...people

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:34 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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need to get paid in order to get money and services to victims of the fires...need I go further?

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"Directly to the victims"!

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:37 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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FireAid's mission was built to support known and vetted local non-profits...and as the LA Times

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:42 am on Aug 27, 2025
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article shows...they've been very successful.

Direct assistance to individuals is where FEMA comes in...and Trump's cuts to that agency isn't helping...at all.


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Bands and people donated on the premise that the money raised would "Go directly to the victims"

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:24 pm on Aug 27, 2025
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You're a horrible person.

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Precisely. No full audit presented.

Author: Hensou (8771 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 9:09 am on Aug 27, 2025
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If you'd spend more time researching instead of carping, you'd know that FireAid has promised a

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:36 am on Aug 27, 2025
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full accounting of it's work by the end of 2025, and have it audited by KPMG.

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Precisely. No full audit presented.

Author: Hensou (8771 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 12:08 pm on Aug 27, 2025
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They're not done yet...there will be an audit at the end of the year...do you have any evidence of

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:12 pm on Aug 27, 2025
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fraud being conducted by anyone involved with the FireAid program?

Did you get this incensed when Trump was found to have defrauded admirers who paid into Trump University?...or gave to his Family Foundation?...or when Steve Bannon defrauded MAGAs who gave to his "Build The Wall" Fund?...Of course not...you are a Political Zombie who mindlessly supports a Convicted Felon, a Rapist, Fraud, Insurrectionist and Colluder with Vladimir Putin...the only question is WHY?


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Imagine that…Cheeks, Hensou, et al…Hoisted on their own Petard…actually, no surprise there.

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:40 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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Hardly. Where is the full audit? Once again you live in a fantasy world.

Author: Hensou (8771 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 9:08 am on Aug 27, 2025
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You're trying to save face with a pathetic "but it wasn't technically fraud" defense.

Author: jakers (14048 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:03 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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Collecting $100MM in charity and then trickling a much lesser percentage through a matrix of bloated bureaucracy is garbage. Just admit it and move on.

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Show us evidence of fraud…not innuendos.

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:51 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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What's funny is that you don't know how the money was stolen, but your instinct is to defend it.

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:03 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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Show us the evidence…it’s a simple request.

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 7:09 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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Not a lot of structures going up...

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:27 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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But on the positive, maybe it can serve as a firebreak for the rest of LA

Link: https://youtu.be/FS_JIRYWoLw?si=EwnUZn1CQNGVFB49

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Nice escape try, but “FireAid” is not responsible for the entire Recovery…just so you know…

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:43 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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You wanted evidence, I provided some that could not be disputed by your gamesmanship to avoid truth.

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:54 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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The truth is that your JR video was nothing but an 'Innuendo Fest' with NO supporting evidence...you

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:39 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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should have figured that out on your own...or better yet, have done your own work, like 521 and I did to get the whole story and find that indeed "FireAid" DID and DOES provide direct aid to small businesses and Individuals.

Thread Level: 10

Here's a local report, why are defending this BS?

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:53 am on Aug 27, 2025
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Link: https://youtu.be/GE1-8w9ZiuQ?si=rv0-QTQ3F-Qz42A3

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It was a simple and worthwhile question. Tyrone obfuscates purely because it's his role here.

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33712 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:11 am on Aug 27, 2025
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My guess is he feels he's protecting California somehow. No real idea and certainly not worth spending any time on.

The issue is how much of aid gets eaten up as it cycles through non-profits. There doesn't have to be "fraud" per se but, if administrative costs eat up nearly all of the aid, what is the difference to the people who are supposed to receive the assistance?

It's a valid concern worth exploring. (Anyone who involves a non-profit should do a due diligence on how much of the money donated actually gets to those in need. Those running FireAid should have done that and been honest and transparent about the money going to victims of the disaster. It seems they didn't really care and just mouthed that all the money was going to those in need.)

Immediately one guy rides in with irrelevant information. The next tries to hijack the subject to get people arguing about something other than the topic because he has a singular agenda he is trying to further.


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I think we need legislation to clean up this whole NGO/Non-Profit grift.

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:27 am on Aug 27, 2025
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There needs to be verification that most (say 90%) of the donated money or government grants is used for the intended purpose, in this case to go directly to victims.

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He's trying to run and hide behind a strawman again.

Author: jakers (14048 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:56 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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He continues to defend the indefensible.

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:54 am on Aug 27, 2025
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He claims to be an ND grad. I have serious doubts about that. He posts more like a DNC operative.

Author: Hensou (8771 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 9:14 am on Aug 27, 2025
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He's not, he is faux. He fools nobody

Author: ColeyO (12614 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:50 am on Aug 27, 2025
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Wow...you really wanted to prove my point. Fail!

Author: jakers (14048 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:01 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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Quit dancing around…show us the evidence of fraud.

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 7:10 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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Keep running with the strawman.

Author: jakers (14048 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:54 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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I never claimed fraud. You of course know this. And since you can't defend this stupid execution of charity, your only hope is to pretend that you're arguing against something else.

Tell your handlers you got another F today.


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Jakes floats like butterfly

Author: Hensou (8771 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 8:58 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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But he stings like a bee.

You are a flyweight also ran against a Heavyweight
Champion.


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That's about the size of him...and his impact...in short...an annoyance without substance. We'll see

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:43 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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if he can find the wherewithal to have a serious and protracted debate...hope springs eternal. With you, hope has its limitations ;-)

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You can die from a bee sting. We can only hope.

Author: Hensou (8771 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 7:14 am on Aug 27, 2025
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BTW you missed the part about a heavyweight versus a flyweight.

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Still ignoring Mark’s suggestions?

Author: Hensou (8771 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 5:31 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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BTW, 3TK is a HOF poster.

You, clearly are not.


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No consequences ever

Author: ColeyO (12614 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:17 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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Any substance to your post?…I’ll hold my breath ;-)

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:53 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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What an illogically stupid post by you.

Author: Hensou (8771 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 8:32 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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If you don’t think I have any substance, why would you hold your breath? In your scenario you would die.

3TK is a HOF poster and you are not.
That is irrefutable substance.


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HOF UHND Poster!?...pshaw...I've got my sights set on a Nobel Peace Prize...heck if a Felon, Rapist

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:48 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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Fraud and Insurrectionist can get one, ANYONE can...Oslo...Here I Come!!...Woohoo!

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You delusions are boring Tyrone.

Author: Hensou (8771 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 9:07 am on Aug 27, 2025
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.

Author: Hensou (8771 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

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It was a non-profit scam like the USAID model that is intentionally obfuscated

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:37 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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Let me know if you can find a concrete number on the percentage that made it to the actual victims.

Link: https://www.thefp.com/p/where-did-100-million-in-la-fire

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No...You show us some documented fraud...surely you have more than idle questions w/o substance

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:54 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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behind them...or maybe I'm wrong about that.

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Read the article TTTK posted below, one thing is obvious you don't give a rats ass about the victims

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:56 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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I'd like to see the evidence of fraud coming from you, Cheeks...I'll wait.

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 5:07 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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And as I've said before, my wife and I have donated to the Red Cross for Disaster Relief due to Hurricanes in the East and Gulf Coasts, as well as CA fire victims...wash your mouth out ;-).

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He’s given it clearly. You ignored it.

Author: Hensou (8771 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 6:12 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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Instead you praised Chris for his inane rant about FEMA..

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Oh, so you’ve got the evidence of fraud …show it to us.

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 7:08 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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Already presented.

Author: Hensou (8771 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 7:55 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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No it hasn't.

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:13 pm on Aug 27, 2025
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We want me to investigate this personally?

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:10 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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You posted the Joe Rogan video that turned out to be nothing but innuendos…it’s your responsibility

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:58 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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to provide the missing substance, Cheeks…don’t tell us you have none.

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It went to NGOs, not victims, that much is clear.

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:11 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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The organizers stated that it would go "directly to victims" but investigative reporters can't find recipients. If you care about the victims, you should be upset, but instead you're upset with me for challenging you.

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He demands irrefutable proof yet produces none.

Author: Hensou (8771 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 6:28 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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Read the L.A. Times article I posted hours ago…has documented proof

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 7:06 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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That “FireAid” absolutely gave large sums of donated money to small businesses and Individuals who were victims of the fires…just as they promised.

What we’re lacking right now is evidence of fraud by “FireAid”. I’m not saying there hasn’t been any, but no one should be claiming or insinuating that there was without evidence…most reasonable people would agree with that…where do you stand?


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That article is hot garbage. It never addresses where the money actually went.

Author: iairishcheeks (28116 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:12 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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There are several examples cited...and at the end of the year KPMG will conduct a full audit...

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:54 am on Aug 27, 2025
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better than firing auditors (i.e. IGs) like Trump has done across all of the federal government.

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Totally agree.

Author: Hensou (8771 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 8:25 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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Tyrone demands proof the ignores it or posts some AI drivel.
Nobody is buying it. Nobody.


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Hey, I've provided the LA Times article that proves FireAid has provided a great deal of aid to

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:02 pm on Aug 27, 2025
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established local non-profits who have been vetted before receiving any funds...you, however, have provided no support for the insinuation that there is serious fraud going on with FireAid's services...

Lots of talk, but no substance.


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The article is garbage. You dream the impossible dream: logical relevance.

Author: Hensou (8771 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 12:26 pm on Aug 27, 2025
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Per Mark's admonition, you should be providing substantive evidence to back up your claim that the

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:16 pm on Aug 27, 2025
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LA Times article is inaccurate...or in your parlance, "Garbage"...don't be lazy, get out and do some honest research...like I did.

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Just asking questions still

Author: Quest4twelve (6999 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 4:49 pm on Aug 26, 2025
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