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From our nation's paper of record, the health professionals weigh in. Bookmark.

Author: conorlarkin (21358 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:02 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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First four paragraphs:

We have each had the honor and privilege of serving as director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, either in a permanent or acting capacity, dating back to 1977. Collectively, we spent more than 100 years working at the C.D.C., the world’s pre-eminent public health agency. We served under multiple Republican and Democratic administrations — every president from Jimmy Carter to Donald Trump — alongside thousands of dedicated staff members who shared our commitment to saving lives and improving health.

What Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has done to the C.D.C. and to our nation’s public health system over the past several months — culminating in his decision to fire Dr. Susan Monarez as C.D.C. director days ago — is unlike anything we have ever seen at the agency, and unlike anything our country has ever experienced.

Secretary Kennedy has fired thousands of federal health workers and severely weakened programs designed to protect Americans from cancer, heart attacks, strokes, lead poisoning, injury, violence and more. Amid the largest measles outbreak in the United States in a generation, he’s focused on unproven “treatments” while downplaying vaccines. He canceled investments in promising medical research that will leave us ill prepared for future health emergencies. He replaced experts on federal health advisory committees with unqualified individuals who share his dangerous and unscientific views. He announced the end of U.S. support for global vaccination programs that protect millions of children and keep Americans safe, citing flawed research and making inaccurate statements. And he championed federal legislation that will cause millions of people with health insurance through Medicaid to lose their coverage. Firing Dr. Monarez — which led to the resignations of top C.D.C. officials — adds considerable fuel to this raging fire.

We are worried about the wide-ranging impact that all these decisions will have on America's health security. Residents of rural communities and people with disabilities will have even more limited access to health care. Families with low incomes who rely most heavily on community health clinics and support from state and local health departments will have fewer resources available to them. Children risk losing access to lifesaving vaccines because of the cost.


Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/01/opinion/cdc-leaders-kennedy.html

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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris

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Thread Level: 2

Bobby knows nothing about healthcare. Surprised anyone not brain damaged listens to him.

Author: ND521 (9589 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 7:10 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
Thread Level: 3

Assume you agree that he knows more / is more sane than this dude...

Author: NedoftheHill (44971 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 7:09 am on Sep 2, 2025
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Just kind of funny how you guys criticize Trump appointments. You live in glass houses; maybe you shouldn't throw so many stones.

Improve your game so it is better than his. You would have more credibility.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Levine#/media/File%3AAdmiral_Rachel_L._Levine.jpg

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 3

I'm going to assume this is the pregnancy hormones talking.

Author: iairishcheeks (28146 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:02 am on Sep 2, 2025
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Thread Level: 4

They/their is sounding like a chest feeder.

Author: Iggle (12757 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 10:10 am on Sep 2, 2025
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Thread Level: 3

He said himself that no one should ask him for medical advice...now THAT's Trump's vision of an HHS

Author: TyroneIrish (21525 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:21 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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Secretary...

Diseases of all kinds could care less what party you're registered in...or how loyal you are to Donald Trump...don't complain to the CDC if you or a loved one gets seriously ill...for the lack of a vaccine or treatment whose development staffing and funding has been cut.


Thread Level: 2

It’s not 1948.

Author: LanceManion (8307 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 5:45 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
Thread Level: 2

nation’s paper😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16319 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:07 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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The NYT’s diseased minds picked Kamala Harris to win the election. She lost.

Author: Hensou (8836 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 3:28 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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The NYT is a DNC propaganda rag.

Thread Level: 3

Don't shoot the messenger. In a regime full of bad appointees, Bobby is the worst.

Author: ND521 (9589 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 7:13 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
Thread Level: 4

Tulsi is a close second

Author: Chris94 (37126 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:10 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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Thread Level: 5

Yup. Followed by Hegseth, Noem & Bondi.

Author: ND521 (9589 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 1:18 am on Sep 2, 2025
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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The NYT abides by Journalistic Standards to ensure it publishes the truth...MAGA outlets, like FOX

Author: TyroneIrish (21525 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:56 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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pay hundreds of million of dollars so as to Continue Lying to the public. You make poor choices.

Thread Level: 3

King of the ostriches

Author: Chris94 (37126 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:35 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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Thread Level: 4

Healthy at any weight.

Author: iairishcheeks (28146 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:43 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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Yo, get as fat as you want, there will be no negative consequences whatsoever. It's such a great analog for the CDC under Conor's heroes.

Thread Level: 5

Do you have any other sisters?

Author: Chris94 (37126 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:11 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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Just kidding here. In case it’s not obvious.

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Thread Level: 6

Yes, I have another sister, she did not get a 35 on the ACT and she also didn't join the NG at 16.

Author: iairishcheeks (28146 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:35 am on Sep 2, 2025
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If Conor criticized her, it would have bothered me much less.

Thread Level: 6

You of all people should be upset that these pros/experts failed you so.

Author: iairishcheeks (28146 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:43 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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Instead of being angry at the people that created the problem, you're angry at those trying to fix it.

That has to be one miserable existence.


Thread Level: 6

Didn’t you once tell us that your wife is a behemoth?

Author: PaND (2819 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 9:20 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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Maybe I am confusing posters here.

Thread Level: 7

No, definitely not. Chris actually outkicked his coverage there.

Author: jakers (14053 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:23 am on Sep 2, 2025
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Thread Level: 8

Nice to know his in-depth knowledge of FEMA paid off in one area...

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33738 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:30 am on Sep 2, 2025
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Thread Level: 4

You are the Queen of Bats.

Author: Hensou (8836 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 3:39 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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You live in total darkness with an upside down point of view.

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Thread Level: 2

In the real world when you fail catastrophically, you get fired.

Author: iairishcheeks (28146 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:10 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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We are the most unhealthy first world nation in the world, by any measure.

Pregnant men.


Thread Level: 3

You believe RFK Jr knows more about public health risks than the authors?

Author: conorlarkin (21358 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:14 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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Dr. William Foege served as director of the C.D.C. from 1977-1983.
Dr. William Roper served as director of the C.D.C. from 1990-1993.
Dr. David Satcher served as director of the C.D.C. from 1993-1998.
Dr. Jeffrey Koplan served as director of the C.D.C. from 1998-2002.
Dr. Richard Besser served as acting director of the C.D.C. in 2009.
Dr. Tom Frieden served as director of the C.D.C. from 2009-2017.
Dr. Anne Schuchat served as acting director of the C.D.C. in 2017 and 2018.
Dr. Rochelle Walensky served as director of the C.D.C. from 2021-2023.
Dr. Mandy Cohen served as director of the C.D.C. from 2023-2025.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 4

In fairness, though, RFK has read a lot about vaccines on the internet

Author: Chris94 (37126 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:36 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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Thread Level: 5

Pregnant men.

Author: iairishcheeks (28146 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:37 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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Thread Level: 6

Dummies.

Author: ND521 (9589 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 9:06 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
Thread Level: 7

Agree…they should have used protection…

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33738 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:40 am on Sep 2, 2025
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Thread Level: 8

Also, wash your fetish gear.

Author: iairishcheeks (28146 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:16 pm on Sep 2, 2025
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Thread Level: 9

My OCD about spotless fetish gear really paid dividends during COVID...

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33738 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:36 pm on Sep 2, 2025
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Thread Level: 4

What happened to cancer, obesity, auto-immune and autism rates over their tenure?

Author: iairishcheeks (28146 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:16 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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Thread Level: 5

Not sure the CDC is responsible to fix/treat your list of issues.

Author: conorlarkin (21358 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:46 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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My sense is that they have been largely successful since their inception in addressing high risk public health threats.

See attached.

Under any scenario, Kennedy is the last person on the planet who should be in command.


Link: https://www.cdc.gov/global-health/about/accomplishments.html

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 6

You don't think that the issues I cite are public health threats?!?!?!

Author: iairishcheeks (28146 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:53 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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Thread Level: 7

They are. But, more suited for doctor patient bucket.

Author: conorlarkin (21358 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:07 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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School menus and processed foods? Yes, CDC should do better.

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 8

A fish rots from the head down.

Author: iairishcheeks (28146 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:12 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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I get that you want to blame it on the people on the front lines, because you have outsourced your ability for critical thinking to the NYT and WAPO.

I didn't even read the article and I can detect the bullshit from its smell.


Thread Level: 9

Thanks Hayseed.

Author: conorlarkin (21358 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:03 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 10

You should feel like the ultimate rube since you can't argue against a hayseed.

Author: iairishcheeks (28146 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:47 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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Thread Level: 11

UNCLE!

Author: conorlarkin (21358 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:50 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 9

More willful ignorance...and distain for all the benefits that modern medical science has provided..

Author: TyroneIrish (21525 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:52 pm on Sep 1, 2025
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Trump's allowance of a Worm Brain addled RFK Jr. to "Run Wild" with the HHS...is the source of this Rot...just ask the leadership of any hospital in this country.

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