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Long term COVID's worst side effect? Sowing pervasive distrust in the "science" of medicine.

Author: Curly1918 (16722 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 8:19 am on Sep 5, 2025
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It is now more than apparent that EVERYONE has a personal agenda for promoting specific "treatments" for almost anything.

Maybe it was always this way and we just never knew it.

But today, medical researchers and doctors and their corporate sponsors are about as trusted as are Catholic priests with altar boys.

At 75, I was enthused to get the COVID vaccine when the media hysteria was at its peak... and then I got COVID anyway... but it was no worse than a mild flu. I also knew several folks who got it without being vaccinated and it was no worse than what I experienced. My current belief is that COVID is not a serious threat to those who are healthy AND that a lot of folks profited tremendously by mandating the use of this vaccine... before it was seriously tested. As a result, my "faith" in any medical professional has "fallen away."


Link: https://www.dw.com/en/fake-studies-on-the-rise-destroying-trust-in-science/a-73533918

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Thread Level: 2

Looks like you "stumbled" on the left's new political attack item b/c they have nothing else

Author: LanceManion (8352 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 10:26 am on Sep 5, 2025
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Link: The left truly is pathetic

Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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I don't see COVID as becoming an issue again... except among the paranoids in California.

Author: Curly1918 (16722 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 1:59 pm on Sep 5, 2025
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Link: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/as-covid-wave-washes-over-california-some-health-officials-urge-residents-to-mask-up/ar-AA1LMKKt?ocid=BingNewsVerp

Thread Level: 4

Unless the Wuhan crew decides to fire up a new and improved version...

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33757 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:11 pm on Sep 5, 2025
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Here’s an alternative anecdote…

Author: TyroneIrish (21573 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 8:46 am on Sep 5, 2025
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My golfing partner…also in his 70’s, and very healthy …a physical therapist who walked every round with me…got COVID and died…he wasn’t vaccinated.

Thank heaven that mRNA technology, which had been in development for many years came to fruition in time to fight a deadly disease in record time thus saving many millions of people all over the world.

Back in the days of no vaccines and “Herd Immunity”, average life expectancy was 45 years… now in the modern age of Medical Science it’s on the order of 80 years. Take your pick.


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Just curious, but what did he die from? COVID is like AIDS in that people don't die from AIDS but

Author: LanceManion (8352 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 10:13 am on Sep 5, 2025
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complications therefrom.

Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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His family made it clear that he would not have died were it not for COVID-19...are you implying

Author: TyroneIrish (21573 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:29 pm on Sep 5, 2025
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that most, if not all, COVID deaths during the pandemic were not due to SARS-CoV-2?...seriously?

Thread Level: 4

That’s one of the idiot mantras of the pseudoscientists

Author: Chris94 (37146 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:31 am on Sep 5, 2025
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People didn’t die from COVID - they died WITH COVID!


True for a few, sure. Others just happened to be on respirators suffering from multiple organ failure.


Thread Level: 5

It's a simple question. I'm not saying COVID didn't precipitate his death, but COVID isn't a direct

Author: LanceManion (8352 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 10:41 am on Sep 5, 2025
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cause of death. It made something fail in his body.

Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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COVID isn't a direct cause of death? OK, you are not worth talking to on this.

Author: Chris94 (37146 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:46 am on Sep 5, 2025
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Not your fault. You're just an imbecile.

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You are saying P died of cancer. I am asking what failed as a result of cancer? Both can be true.

Author: LanceManion (8352 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 10:52 am on Sep 5, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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My cousin also refused to get vaccinated. Listened to idiots like RFK.

Author: Chris94 (37146 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:52 am on Sep 5, 2025
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He’s dead too.

Hundreds of thousands of people died unnecessarily because they believed the pseudoscientists.


Thread Level: 4

I've mentioned this before...our P/CC Doc's head shakes when recalling that at one point, 98% of

Author: TyroneIrish (21573 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:01 am on Sep 5, 2025
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deaths in the ICU were unvaccinated...unnecessary and shameful losses of life, often due to malicious misinformation.

Thread Level: 5

Wrong again!

Author: LanceManion (8352 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 10:27 am on Sep 5, 2025
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Link: Sooooooooooooo wrong

Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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While we all know that you would never make things up to prove a point.

Author: PaND (2843 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 9:10 am on Sep 5, 2025
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At least that is what you say. He chose not to take the vaccine, he chose free will.

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“He chose free will”? By being manipulated by false information, lies is now free will?

Author: jimbasil (53051 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 10:18 am on Sep 5, 2025
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It’s called being conditioned, something you suffer from.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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I know 5 people who died from the Pfizer vaccines. Healthy people under 50.

Author: Hensou (8899 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 9:35 am on Sep 5, 2025
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Pfizer lied about the efficacy of the shots and the cardiovascular side effects.

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That's odd...after doing a search, there are no verified reports of anyone dying from Pfizer's

Author: TyroneIrish (21573 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:50 am on Sep 5, 2025
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COVID-19 vaccine...Note that ALL deaths following COVID vaccinations are referred to the VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) for analysis of any 'Cause and Effect possibilities...and all vaccinations are recorded as well.


You'll need to change your 'Modus Operandi' and provide some Substance to your claim.


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I stood next to their coffins you miserable jackass. Search your shorts for manhood.

Author: Hensou (8899 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 9:56 am on Sep 5, 2025
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Provide proof you exist, Bot-girl!

Thread Level: 7

Knock it off

Author: Mark (879 Posts - Joined: Jul 23, 2015)

Posted at 12:20 pm on Sep 5, 2025
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It's a decent topic, stick to it.

Moderator
Thread Level: 8

Pizza is a better topic!

Author: Hensou (8899 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 3:34 pm on Sep 5, 2025
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Again...there are NO reports of deaths due to Pfizer's mRNA COVID vaccine.. Documented Fact.

Author: TyroneIrish (21573 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:03 am on Sep 5, 2025
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Another goddam lie. More Old Joe bullshit.

Author: Hensou (8899 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 10:11 am on Sep 5, 2025
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I stood next to their coffins you miserable jackass. God you are despicable.

Link: https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/new-study-pfizer-recipients-face

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What you fail to understand is that the SARS-CoV-2 virus will infect many organs, not just the Lungs

Author: TyroneIrish (21573 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:50 pm on Sep 5, 2025
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and degrade those organs...which, if already weakened, could then cause them to fail and the patient die. Note that a COVID infection is more likely to cause Myocarditis than a vaccine.

Read the attached paper on this issue, and do some thinking before spewing unwarranted expletives...and I'll repeat once again...after very intense study of all deaths following vaccination, there is no clear pathophysiology for any deaths following vaccination with the Pfizer product...and certainly not 5 of your personal friends.


Link: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9901898/

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You fail to understand that you lied and were proven wrong again

Author: Hensou (8899 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 8:41 pm on Sep 5, 2025
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I’m done responding to you because you are a proven liar.
Search for manhood in your shorts.


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For others following this thread, see the Chart for COVID deaths nationwide among vaccinated and un-

Author: TyroneIrish (21573 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:12 pm on Sep 5, 2025
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vaccinated U.S. residents...I can assure you that Florida (which stopped taking data on COVID deaths in the middle of the pandemic) is unlikely to have fared any better than the national average.

And the U.S. Vaccine Adverse Effect Reporting System (VAERS) has still not found a single case of an mRNA vaccine causing death...


Link: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status

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I am sorry for your loss and I wish your golfing partner has been vaccinated.

Author: Curly1918 (16722 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:04 am on Sep 5, 2025
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I suspect that this vaccine is far less dangerous for most than the far right now believes. However, I also suspect that mandatory vaccination of EVERYONE, especially the young and healthy, was just plain stupid at best and maliciously motivated at worst.

I've never experienced any side effects from this or any vaccine in my life and I'm not terribly nervous that it might adversely impact my own long term health... but this is not to say that it hasn't and won't for others.

What I'm saying is that I have far far less trust in our "experts" than I did previously.

I would not trust one word that ever came out of the mouth of Tony Fauci.


Thread Level: 4

The mRNA vaccines were scrupulously tested with RCTs and rigorously followed up with VAERS studies..

Author: TyroneIrish (21573 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:37 am on Sep 5, 2025
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they are phenomenally safe as prescribed...so, when confronted with the worst pandemic in a hundred years, we were blessed that Medical Science came to the rescue. Now we have a true Anti-Science Idiot running our HHS. As for Mandates, because these vaccines were so well scrutinized it was prudent for Front Line Medical and Government employees to get vaccinated, and smart for many other institutions (e.g. Universities) to do the same...btw, it's impossible to know exactly who is not vulnerable to COVID-19...and there were deaths among young supposedly "healthy" people,

As for Tony Fauci, as a true Infectious Disease expert, he had been on top of the mRNA technology developments for the entire time...it was his JOB to do so...therefore, he was able to engage the "gears of government", to coin a phrase, and get Moderna's mRNA-1273 vaccine started down the clinical trials path just days after China gave us the genome for SARS-CoV-2...just one more reason why Dr. Fauci has been justly lauded by U.S. Presidents (Rep and Dem),World Leaders and Medical Organizations his entire career. Sorry to learn that you're blind to reality when it comes to this incredible physician who has done so much good and saved so many millions of lives.


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Thread Level: 2

Well stated

Author: LanceManion (8352 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 8:42 am on Sep 5, 2025
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