Regarding the discussion about politicized COVID.
Great example of the erosion of trust from the people.
Link: https://x.com/kevinnbass/status/1963007750423904693
Replies to: Regarding the discussion about politicized COVID.
Shut up and listen to the experts, Jake.
But not experts like Jay Bhattacharya.
Guy is more of an economist than life long medical expert
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That is exactly what you want, an MD with a PHD in economics.
Because it is a complex problem to manage that have ramifications beyond health.
If you delay the inevitable infection but the patient kills themselves, what did you accomplish?
Per your opinion. Why is economic background good for science?
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Because it deals with complex systems. Pandemic policy needs to take into account the entire system.
Net survival, net livelihood, net opportunity for prosperity.
Truth and morality are best determined by consensus of experts.
Sophisticated people understand this.
You're supposed to start from your desired truth.
You need to promote data that supports the desired truth, even long after that data has been debunked. If someone posts a study that was published last month, all you need to do is go back to your bookmarked study from 2020 or 2021 at the height of politically corrupted "science".
And the authors of scientific studies that counter your desired truth? Attack their character, claim their data-based results are dangerous, and use political pressure to ban them from Twitter and fired from their jobs.
This, you see, is how science really works.
Trying to put lipstick on that 'Drive By' 30 sec. video isn't going to help you learn to find Truth
and Morality...you're on the losing side of this debate.
"Malinformation"
It might be my favorite Orwellian concoction of the past decade. Also known as, "You rubes can't handle the truth." More accurately: "We elites can't handle the truth!"
Really? So you're going with Ivermectin, Clorox - Good to know.
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"Malinformation" is defined as true information that can be used for malevolent purposes.
I take the radical position that people should not be shielded from true information and that they can handle it without it being filtered by "experts," accepting that sometimes free speech will result in negative consequences. Fascists, actual ones, disagree. I long ago concluded in what camp you sit.
Yes of course, like all MAGAHATS, you’re all expert in everything so why have real science
and real facts disrupt the expertise.
I have attempted many times to engage you in rational discussion. Instead, this is what I get.
The last time I recall an attempt, I asked for an example of where you disagree with a Democratic Party position. I gave you two or three examples of where I disagree, strenuously, with the Trump Administration. You gave me the usual, "Well, the Dems don't go far enough on..." which isn't an example of breaking from the party. I'll allow others to judge who marches in unthinking lockstep and who does not.
Misinformation lies and spin is the greatest disservice to voters no matter who does it. Your
insistence on changing the subject to make an accusation is just more of the same.
Joe runs circles around the staff, especially the pregnant men and the healthy at any weight.
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You're the perfect foil for this sub thread.
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Your desired truth.
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Oh yes, "pre-bunking malinformation."
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'Truth and Morality" won't be found among those who purposely misinform others, like we've just seen
with that very short out-of-context video clip from Jakers.
"Out of context." Always with you people.....
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You can't get anymore "Out Of Context" than what you posted, Jake...;-)...just admit it...move on...
Ms. Cohen was relating how she tried to drop the temp on a very stressful situation during the early days of COVID with some light-hearted comments, and gullible you just swallowed the whole 'Line and Sinker' without a moment's thought as to what the true CONTEXT was. Only a MAGA would buy your attempt at walking away from that debacle.
Ah, Yes...Dr. Bhattacharya of 'Great Barrington Declaration' fame...check out his lack of substance
in replying to Dr. Sten Vermund, former Dean of Yale's Medical School regarding the question of what detailed planning went into Dr. B's suggestion for "Herd Immunity" in the early days of COVID-19...a case of mis-used intelligence on Dr. Jay's part. (and now chosen by none other than RFK Jr. to help "Lead" the nation's HC program).
Thanks for bringing this up again...seriously...since it affords an opportunity to shine a light on
the MAGA Bankruptcy of Fair and Honest communication on serious issues...like COVID-19. That short clip was in answer to the last question of Mandy Cohen at Duke University's Med School, where she was sharing her career experiences as head of North Carolina's Health Agency, the CDC and a private business enterprise. Below is the entire ~45 minute session, and while everyone should watch all of it, that's very unlikely...especially for MAGAs...so go to, let's say the 40:00 mark and get a sense of context for her later comments which illuminated for me the challenges states had (btw, her comments related to when she was NC's HC Director) due to DJT's total failure to heed the "Pandemic Preparedness Plan" that the Obama administration left for Trump...i.e. for 3 years Trump's admin didn't replenish N95/KN95 Masks, or Ventilators, etc. thus causing Total Chaos for all the State HC Directors...like Mandy Cohenl......THAT's what she is talking about in that clip...how to lower the extreme pressure amongst states COMPETING with each other for desperately needed PPE equipment, etc. for their citizens health and lives.
Note also, that Mandy Cohen is light years more intelligent and committed to public health than DJT , and certainly RFK Jr.
Fitting you can't defend the nonsense, so you post your worthless ramblings.
Trusting the science!
You Blew It, Jake...learn from your mistakes.
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Are you trying to say that the MAGA pseudoscience army took something out of context?
Impossible.
Literally...all day...every day. The aversion to knowledge and truth is astounding...we need a
multi-billion dollar Public/Private program to find the causes, treatments and hopefully cures for this so that we can actually make reasoned progress....Hope springs eternal.
I know that that's not true - Baron has rules and Mharman has the expert scientists
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Gotta give 'em credit for 'Creativity'...they're masters of "Making Stuff Up"...just like DJT...e.g.
"Birther Meme"..."Hundreds of Friends Who Died in the Towers on 9/11"..."Stable Genius"...and on it goes...they learn from the Best, and it leads to "Baron's Rules" among other nonsensical 'Detritus' ;-)
Governmental immunity - assuring the incompetent cannot get sued for their incompetence
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Led by almost unlimited presidential immunity. Own yer vote.
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What are you butt hurt about here in a 10 second clip on MAGAchan?
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It’s a 30 second clip that proves her incompetence.
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No...it shows your incompetence for not seeking the entire video which is easily accessed on YouTube
in mere seconds by keying in "Mandy Cohen, Duke University". That thought never crossed your mind, since Critical Thinking to a MAGA like you is akin to "Kryptonite"...to be avoided at All Costs.
Watch the full video I presented and learn the truth about a brilliant and accomplished Public Servant in the Medical field.
It’s a 30 second clip that proves her incompetence. End of discussion.
If you can’t see her obvious stupidity in that clip then you are deranged.
BTW, don’t ever condescend with me. It makes you look like a complete ass.
And for the umpteenth time, I am not a Republican.
So I am certainly not MAGA.
Why do you perpetuate this lie?
The full video proves you wrong...watch it if you have the courage to learn and seek truth.
btw...if you support Donald J. Trump, you are by definition a MAGA...and all that implies. Oh, and it's impossible to not condescend with you..as hard as anyone might try.
You are deranged. Your arrogance is phenomenal. Your logic is not.
“MAGA is the name of a political movement, sometimes referred to as Trumpism, which is often described as right-wing or far-right and is strongly tied to the Republican Party.”
I am not a Republican you liar.
I do not support everything that Trump does you liar.
Liar.
Cue the Hensou as GOAT lie.
You post that crap every time you get caught posting crap.
Good bye. I am going to a Steeler game watch party .
Post your lies to someone else.
What don't you support of Trump's actions and policies...I'm hard pressed to recall a passioned post
in opposition of him from you...btw, there are Libertarians and Independents here who support Trump for President...you don't have to be a Republican to be a MAGA, which is not an organized political party or group.
I ask you to say Yes or No to the question of whether or not you...the human being you are...have EVER logged on/signed on to the UHND website and Forums under the Username of "Aragoto" (I wasn't here when "GOAT" was posting)...So, then...you have never answered that simple question...just do it now and we're done...I'll take your word for it, knowing your conscience would be your guide.
Hope you have a good time watching the game...I'll be doing the same later with the Niners ;-).
According to MAGA hayseeds comprehension levels.
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No offense, but you undoubtedly have one of the very lowest IQs on this board.
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The dumbest are the loudest.
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Carville has ripped libs who use the hayseed shtick.
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What a crackpot.
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