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Excess mortality rates 2019-2023 for ages 25-44.

Author: iairishcheeks (28192 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:43 pm on Sep 7, 2025
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Please draw your own conclusions, but if you're conclusion is that CDC, NIH, HHS, and the other dozen or so health agencies in the US are doing a great job, you might want to rethink that.

Link: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2829783

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Thread Level: 2

What the heck happened between 2019 and 2023???...any thoughts on the matter? ;-)

Author: TyroneIrish (21625 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 5:12 pm on Sep 7, 2025
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Those numbers are crazy - as a society looks like we’re doing something wrong

Author: LanceManion (8410 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 4:56 pm on Sep 7, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Here's one hypothesis:

Author: iairishcheeks (28192 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:01 pm on Sep 7, 2025
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Instead of focusing on objective measures that promote health, we did:
* Get your 6 month old to healthy teenagers vaccinated for CoVid.
* Healthy at any weight, get as fat as you want
* DEI and Gender, people want to die under the care of people that look like them
* Social Justice through the healthcare system
* Defending the lockdowns
* Defending the mask and vaccine mandates
* Ignoring the mass quantities of drugs, especially Fentanyl through the southern border

And finally, and this is the biggest one: Gaslighting the public constantly to the point that most normal people don't even want to hear what they have to say.


Thread Level: 4

Not much thought behind your 'points'...

Author: TyroneIrish (21625 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:28 am on Sep 8, 2025
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>Many billions of mRNA COVID vaccine doses all over the world prove they are safe for 6 month olds and teens...the vaccines protect them from severe illness and death, while also mitigating transmission. Therefore, it is medically wrong not to make those vaccines available to them.
>Your view is simplistic...read the attached paper on how obesity took off in the U.S.. As a Libertarian, let's hear what you have to say about how far government should go in 'Controlling' obesity.
>As documented in an earlier post, only a small fraction (16%) of America thinks DEI is a bad thing, while 56% say it's a good thing. Also, Gender Dysphoria treatments dramatically reduce suicides among those with that condition.
>Different races and cultures have better health outcomes when served by similar HC providers...there are numerous papers outlining the reasons why...seek them out and read them. Note that before long, non-whites will be the majority in this country...we need to make ALL professions open to ALL Races and Cultures...it's called "Enlightened Self-Interest".
>In a raging pandemic without vaccines, it would be medical malpractice to not recommend some degree of "Lockdown"...the only debatable question is for 'How Long'...it 'Depends'...
>Masking 100% "Mitigates" the transmission of airborne pathogens, especially High Quality N95/KN95 masks...it's EASY to do..and .HARMLESS...and entire nations do it without question (see Japan) and with good results. Vaccines are tested and monitored for safety, so mandating for critical Frontline Services (e.g. HC providers, Police, Fire,Military, etc) is a reasonable and rational decision. Other institutions should also have the freedom to impose them for their own interests.
>Biden admin, along with Rational GOP Senators passed Border Security/Immigration Bill that funded 100+ High Tech Fentanyl Scanners for interdictions of the the main means of transport for that drug into the country...the 10's of thousands of cars and trucks coming into the country each and every day...but Trump killed it back at the beginning of 2024...Have you seen or heard of Trump funding those scanners yet...while the cars and trucks keep rolling in from Mexico? WAKE UP, Cheeks

Finally, the only "Gaslighting" going on comes from media outlets that are willing to pay $787M in order to make a profit telling you what they know to be lies...on behalf of a President who is initiating those lies. Are you that dense that you can't see what's going on in front of you?


Link: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC300778/

Thread Level: 3

This is RFKJ,s focus, as it should be. Look at the people trying to stop him.

Author: iairishcheeks (28192 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:00 pm on Sep 7, 2025
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You can say the same about Elon & DOGE & anyone else trying to do the right thing in this admin

Author: LanceManion (8410 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 6:31 pm on Sep 7, 2025
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Yes, there are some nuts but the system needs to be revamped & people who benefit under the current system or who are too brainwashed won’t even consider the possibility.

Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
Thread Level: 5

Elon Musk is literally Hitler.

Author: iairishcheeks (28192 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:39 pm on Sep 7, 2025
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Thread Level: 6

You can’t literally be another person dummy.

Author: Frank L (64887 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 6:52 pm on Sep 7, 2025
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