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Repression of speech is a common human defense mechanism. We all bury discomforting thoughts inside.

Author: Curly1918 (16790 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:04 am on Sep 11, 2025
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Our college campuses had become virtual gulags for those with differing opinions.

The best thing that might result from the Kirk assassination is the breaking down of barriers to free speech.

It's so ironic that in the 60's it was leftist speech that was repressed.

Charlie Kirk was today's Mario Savio.


Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsO_SlA7E8k

Replies to: Repression of speech is a common human defense mechanism. We all bury discomforting thoughts inside.


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Ammunition inside the rifle was engraved with messages of transgender and antifascist ideology?

Author: Curly1918 (16790 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 12:50 pm on Sep 11, 2025
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IF TRUE... will the T be dropped from the LBGTQ+++ agenda?

OR... is there something about emasculation that is essential to this entire phenomenon?


Link: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/charlie-kirk-shot-suspect-utah-manhunt-b2824720.html

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Makes you wonder if the person asking the question coordinated with the shooter.

Author: NedoftheHill (45046 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 1:20 pm on Sep 11, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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...and the conspiracy theories are emerging. Great.

Author: Chris94 (37209 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:03 pm on Sep 11, 2025
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Already calling for an end to the investigation, I see.

Author: NedoftheHill (45046 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 2:08 pm on Sep 11, 2025
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It would seem like a stupid thing to do (coordinate the shot when a particular topic is raised which we know is near and dear to the shooters heart...the transgender shootings topic), but we are obviously not dealing with rocket scientists.

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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THAT thought came out of YOUR mind.

Author: Curly1918 (16790 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 1:27 pm on Sep 11, 2025
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My next question is whether you believe that Charlie should have been silenced?

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I suspect this post was meant to respond elsewhere?

Author: NedoftheHill (45046 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 2:10 pm on Sep 11, 2025
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If you meant it for me, please explain your logic, as I don't understand.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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I've read your post several times and it seemed to me you were accusing me of coordinating with the

Author: Curly1918 (16790 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 4:50 pm on Sep 11, 2025
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shooter. I mean... I was asking the question,

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He was referring to the person in the audience that asked the question, the topic of which seems now

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33793 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:58 pm on Sep 11, 2025
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...to coincide with (at least) speculation about the shooter's motives given the messages on the ammo.

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Accurate human communication is impossible. Wittgenstein.

Author: Curly1918 (16790 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 5:20 pm on Sep 11, 2025
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Also the "11th Commandment" of the UHND Open Forum...these days...

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33793 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:37 pm on Sep 11, 2025
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Unlike Mario Savio, Charlie Kirk leaves a legacy of falsehoods, misinformation and conspiracy

Author: TyroneIrish (21721 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:38 am on Sep 11, 2025
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theories...look at the substance and fact checks of what he had to say.

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Kirk

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I disagreed with everything that guy stood for. But he wasn't my enemy.

Author: Chris94 (37209 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:18 pm on Sep 11, 2025
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My enemy is the guy who shot him.

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If only the guy who shot Kirk realized he was hurting his own cause.

Author: NedoftheHill (45046 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 2:39 pm on Sep 11, 2025
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Unless his goal was merely to foment more violence, which is certainly possible if he was antifaschistische. Let's hope he was unsuccessful at that.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Everything? How about his willingness to open debate?

Author: Curly1918 (16790 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 1:31 pm on Sep 11, 2025
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OK fine, I liked that

Author: Chris94 (37209 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:32 pm on Sep 11, 2025
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Fair enough.

Author: Curly1918 (16790 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 1:59 pm on Sep 11, 2025
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To be honest, I knew very little about him and from what I've read the past couple days he and I did not share the same viewpoints on lots of things.

The one thing I liked about him was his willingness to oppose the academic establishment's on campus censorship.

My core value is tolerance of free speech.

Nobody express this more sublimely than Justice Brandeis in Whitney v California.


Link: https://firstamendmentwatch.org/history-speaks-brandeis-concurring-holmes-whitney-v-california-1927/

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His legacy is not determined by you.

Author: Hensou (8991 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 12:08 pm on Sep 11, 2025
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Link: https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1MjZnd.img?w=768&h=960&m=6&x=400&y=689&s=653&d=435

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Have I ever posted support for violence and its impact on those closest to the victims?...No...

Author: TyroneIrish (21721 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:42 pm on Sep 11, 2025
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Charlie Kirk's legacy is that of a man who spread falsehoods, misinformation and conspiracy theories that have served to needlessly polarize this country...he is no Hero or Martyr for any just cause. It's called "Accountability".

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WHO is polarizing the country?

Author: humbaba (1241 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:29 pm on Sep 11, 2025
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The Republican party grows not because it is becoming more right wing, but because the Democratic party decided to court the far left and cannot turn back. In other words, they did what they did best, became their own worst enemy.

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The GOP has been taken over by a Convicted Felon, Rapist, Fraud who tried to overthrow a free and

Author: TyroneIrish (21721 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:43 pm on Sep 11, 2025
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fair election…and there are many Republicans who want him and his MAGA followers defeated in the coming elections. Charlie Kirk was among the strongest supporters of that criminal and insurrectionist and therefore sowed polarization throughout the country.

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Kirk's MO was free and open debate, so what does his killing tell you

Author: humbaba (1241 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:47 pm on Sep 11, 2025
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about the Left's confidence in its own position?

Remember that if you have to silence your opposition, your ideas are bad.


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Kirk's MO was repeating falsehoods, misinformation and conspiracy theories...all protected by the

Author: TyroneIrish (21721 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:27 pm on Sep 11, 2025
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First Amendment...to assert that "The Left" is responsible for his assassination is another conspiracy theory...your post isn't helping the situation.

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Wow. I didn’t agree with most of what Charlie said, but…

Author: Domer From Hell (16940 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:54 am on Sep 11, 2025
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I will say that he was a man of conviction, dedication, and Christian faith. He at least gave everyone a chance to speak their mind even if their views conflicted with his views.

The first thing that came to mind when I heard about the shooting were his two young children and his wife. That part is the real tragedy to me.


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We're all born bald baby!
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Christians tell truth that’s a conviction to honor, he was a purveyor of falsehoods and hate.

Author: jimbasil (53101 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 12:18 pm on Sep 11, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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And I couldn't agree more on the revulsion to senseless violence that becomes a life long

Author: TyroneIrish (21721 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:48 am on Sep 11, 2025
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tragedy for spouses, children, family and friends of those killed...there's clearly FAR too much of that going on in this country...we MUST do better, and that will only happen when we join together in renouncing it...and then taking positive ACTION to dramatically reduce it as much as we possibly can.

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As others have noted, you're spitting on his grave

Author: MarkHarman (7386 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:40 am on Sep 11, 2025
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Meaningless details aside of his false beliefs (except for HCQ), his overall message was spot on. I've watched enough of his videos to know he was a good guy who had a common sense belief system. Since common sense and liberal thought don't go together, it's no wonder you oppose him and denigrate his memory.

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As others have noted in the Wiki Summary, your impression of his work is not shared...read what they

Author: TyroneIrish (21721 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:53 am on Sep 11, 2025
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had to say.

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As others have noted in today's posts, your impression of his work is not shared.

Author: Hensou (8991 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 12:04 pm on Sep 11, 2025
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So. be it...are you willing to engage in substantive debate and defend your opinion? Y/N?

Author: TyroneIrish (21721 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:44 pm on Sep 11, 2025
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You are the lowest form of scum on this board and

Author: WoodstockIrish (14800 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:22 am on Sep 11, 2025
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That’s saying a lot.

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My reply was obviously too far, but yes. This.

Author: jakers (14078 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:16 pm on Sep 11, 2025
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It was spot on. I’m surprised we haven’t been suspended yet

Author: WoodstockIrish (14800 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:22 am on Sep 12, 2025
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That this guy continues to be allowed to post here and claim he’s an ND grad is a joke.

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Your original post nailed it.

Author: Hensou (8991 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 12:18 pm on Sep 11, 2025
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Interesting coming from the guy who just lectured me on getting in line with ND for DEI purposes.

Author: LanceManion (8498 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 10:19 am on Sep 11, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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One person's falsehoods, misinformation and conspiracy is another's truth. The issue is free speech.

Author: Curly1918 (16790 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:55 am on Sep 11, 2025
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Kirk invited debate. Our campuses were repressing it.

What's evil is not allowing voice to differing opinions.

The assassination of Charlie Kirk was exactly this.


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Would you be willing to say that to Charlie's wife and kids at his viewing?

Author: Hensou (8991 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 9:47 am on Sep 11, 2025
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You are absolutely pathetic.

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No answer speaks volumes.

Author: Hensou (8991 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 1:10 pm on Sep 11, 2025
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Obviously a Wikipedia hit piece.

Author: PaND (2875 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 9:44 am on Sep 11, 2025
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Only gullible leftists like you would believe it. You are the problem in this country.

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The Wiki link has 178 references you can click on...it even has one from "Truth Social"...read more,

Author: TyroneIrish (21721 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:12 am on Sep 11, 2025
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post less ;-).

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Anyone can edit Wikipedia.

Author: PaND (2875 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 10:33 am on Sep 11, 2025
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The stupidity of the left is staggering.

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"Wikipedia hit piece" is a redundancy.

Author: Curly1918 (16790 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:58 am on Sep 11, 2025
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Thank God for the First Amendment (and the Second as well).

Author: LanceManion (8498 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 9:38 am on Sep 11, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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