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For the level headed people (not many here) who believe in trust but verify

Author: Quest4twelve (7116 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 7:30 am on Sep 16, 2025
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Why are you all in on the United States government blowing up boats in international waters and not giving the American people as much info as they can?

Ps please spare me, but so-and-so and whatabout this…


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Thread Level: 2

The odd thing is that DJT still hasn’t installed the High Tech Fentanyl Scanners at our border

Author: TyroneIrish (21760 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:02 am on Sep 16, 2025
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checkpoints to deal with the #1 means of transport for that drug into the country…the 10’s of thousands of cars and trucks entering every single day….WHY would he not do that?…after all, he himself called on Congress to fund them back in 2019 .

The only rational explanation… given all the chaos he’s created…is that he’s simply under the control of our worst enemy who has No Intention of seeing America Great …EVER.


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Well DFH, my prediction didn't take long to come true...again. Libs defending the cartels/opposing

Author: BaronVonZemo (61146 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:26 am on Sep 16, 2025
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Trump's interdiction attempts.

More of your tribes' usual anti American bullshit.


Thread Level: 3

He’s defending American values and laws, not drug cartels.

Author: jimbasil (53144 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 10:44 am on Sep 16, 2025
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You really are a stupid MAGAcult member.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 3

He’s defending American values and laws, not drug cartels.

Author: jimbasil (53144 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 10:44 am on Sep 16, 2025
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You really are a stupid MAGAcult member.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 3

He’s defending American values and laws, not drug cartels.

Author: jimbasil (53144 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 10:44 am on Sep 16, 2025
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You really are a stupid MAGAcult member.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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It's the same as them constantly saying that Charlie Kirk was a Nazi and a fascist.

Author: PaND (2905 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 9:10 am on Sep 16, 2025
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When asked to provide proof, crickets chirping.

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First they denied it was another trans violence against Christianity. Failing there, they now seek

Author: BaronVonZemo (61146 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:52 am on Sep 16, 2025
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to demonize him to justify the act.

But notice that they (not all - the radical left) will not denounce the act as evil.


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Never seen CK called a Nazi (maybe it's out there), but he wasn't the Saint ya'll trying to make him

Author: Quest4twelve (7116 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 9:18 am on Sep 16, 2025
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out to be. Anyone who's purpose is to divide is the 180 of a saint.

Link: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/greg-gutfeld-charlie-kirk-howard-kurtz-fox-b2826903.html

Thread Level: 5

Did you donate to Luigi's defense fund?

Author: BaronVonZemo (61146 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:29 am on Sep 16, 2025
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Smiling ear to ear with every surrender submission.

Author: Quest4twelve (7116 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 9:33 am on Sep 16, 2025
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Did you celebrate on 9/10?

Author: BaronVonZemo (61146 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:43 am on Sep 16, 2025
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Like shooting fish in a barrel.

Author: Quest4twelve (7116 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 9:52 am on Sep 16, 2025
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Was it? Wow. Pure evil.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61146 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:54 am on Sep 16, 2025
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Yawn at your stale game, fish in a barrel represents how easy it is to get you to pivot and never

Author: Quest4twelve (7116 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 10:16 am on Sep 16, 2025
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respond to a direct point. I'll use another cliche if needed? But you continuously get called on the carpet for being a master runner.

Thread Level: 11

Backpedal. You revealed a lot with your attempt to be cute. And notice you wouldn't simply say "no".

Author: BaronVonZemo (61146 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:27 am on Sep 16, 2025
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On the surface, it’s good that we’ve taken a hardline…

Author: Domer From Hell (16947 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:54 am on Sep 16, 2025
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by taking out that boat, but how effective will the new war on drugs be? Drugs are still reaching the US.

We're all born bald baby!
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It will have zero effect. But it’ll make the hicks think we’re tough.

Author: Chris94 (37234 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:37 am on Sep 16, 2025
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Any significant hits to the bottom line profits is good, AND more importantly putting fear into the

Author: BaronVonZemo (61146 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:57 am on Sep 16, 2025
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cartels runners makes their business a lot harder to carry out as well.

This won't fix it. Cartels have usurped power in Venezuela (and likely Mexico though that is not as clear).
Nothing short of a Venezuelan incursion would address that.

It is just a battle in the war, but at least we are now actually fighting.


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We did the same things during the Reagan and Bush years….

Author: Domer From Hell (16947 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:12 am on Sep 16, 2025
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In fact, one of the reasons we invaded Panama was to “stifle@ the flow of drugs. When all was said and done, it didn’t help.

Maybe Trump found a more effective process, but I doubt it.


We're all born bald baby!
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Yes. Perhaps Quest was asking for "proof" to the MSM that was what they were really doing then too

Author: BaronVonZemo (61146 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:23 am on Sep 16, 2025
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....if he were born yet.

Perhaps you could explain to the child how your operations would be affected if such demands were met.


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You are a byproduct of over consuming right wing media. Your initial and counter arguments

Author: Quest4twelve (7116 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 8:35 am on Sep 16, 2025
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are 💯identical to all rMSM and pundits alike. Like right wing media there is no nuance with you and never discuss anything head on.

Thread Level: 4

Rule #1.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61146 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:59 am on Sep 16, 2025
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I'm worried that we are going to have Cocaine Sharks

Author: iairishcheeks (28224 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:19 am on Sep 16, 2025
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Thread Level: 3

With Cocaine Sharknadoes following in short order...

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33840 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:08 am on Sep 16, 2025
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...without doubt.

Thread Level: 4

Careful.Such humor could lead to deletion of your post esp if cocaine sharknado penises are involved

Author: BaronVonZemo (61146 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:27 am on Sep 16, 2025
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Btw Knute, what is your take on cocaine shark control vis a vis Freud?

Author: BaronVonZemo (61146 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:42 am on Sep 16, 2025
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"Sometimes a torpedo...is just a torpedo..."

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33840 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:48 am on Sep 16, 2025
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(But I ALWAYS defer to Curly on these matters now.)

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Shark shaggers.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61146 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:49 am on Sep 16, 2025
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Do you consider yourself a level headed person?

Author: irish93 (1797 Posts - Joined: Nov 1, 2009)

Posted at 8:15 am on Sep 16, 2025
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Absolutely!

Author: Quest4twelve (7116 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 8:38 am on Sep 16, 2025
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There should be some sort of tribunal on that incident.

Author: Iggle (12806 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 7:42 am on Sep 16, 2025
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I don't know who should run it. The Navy?

Thread Level: 3

Anything but high fiving and saying we are fighting the war on drugs

Author: Quest4twelve (7116 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 7:46 am on Sep 16, 2025
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We all know the majority of the trafficking comes through ports of entry. I know myself would be more impressed if they intercepted that boat and perp walked those people while showing the haul!

Thread Level: 4

Cuz Port of Entry losses are limited, predictable,& able to be baked into “cost of doing business”

Author: BaronVonZemo (61146 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:01 am on Sep 16, 2025
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Since you didn’t read my link below where Marco Rubio explained this, I’ll post it again (really I’ll post it for others since you only regurgitate left wing propaganda.

Now, after supporting criminals and murderers, you defend other countries screwing us with unfair trade by trying to block our tariff response in court, you move to defend cartels. Predictable left wing politics. You hate America.


“ They don't mind losing 2% or 3% of their shipments. They've already sort of baked that into their economic plan. What needs to start happening is some of these boats need to get blown up. Some of these boats need to be not just intercepted but stopped,"


Link: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-military-carries-out-second-strike-venezuelan-narcoterrorists-international-waters

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Pls address the point of my OP. What proof has the US government provided you?

Author: Quest4twelve (7116 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 8:13 am on Sep 16, 2025
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The drugs floating in the water for one. But why do you want proof? Elected officials have explained

Author: BaronVonZemo (61146 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:24 am on Sep 16, 2025
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that they are taking out drug cartel boats in international waters. Venezuela has long been corrupted by the cartels. We are at war wrt to these drugs.

Instead of spewing out MSNOW mantra's "attacking vessels in international waters".......how about you listen to what your own govt is telling you? What possible other motive would they have for sinking small vessels heading out of the drug state of Venezuela toward the US?

This is pure TDS on the part of the Dem media mouthpiece - and then you paroting it here without thought.


Thread Level: 7

We should always have a review when lethal force is used.

Author: Iggle (12806 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 10:12 am on Sep 16, 2025
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If a cop fires his weapon, there is always a review to look into whether it was justified.

We have been told that these are narcotics boats. Hopefully that is true. However, I think we have the right to ask for proof that is the case.

As far as other motives, the motive might be to cover-up a fuck up in targeting.


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Why would you think protocol isn't followed?

Author: BaronVonZemo (61146 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:39 am on Sep 16, 2025
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Thread Level: 9

I don't think anything either way, yet.

Author: Iggle (12806 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 10:58 am on Sep 16, 2025
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I'd like confirmation from people who carefully review the incidents.

Thread Level: 7

Here is how to get Baron to shut up or pivot, watch and learn.

Author: Quest4twelve (7116 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 8:38 am on Sep 16, 2025
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Please paste a link showing floating drugs. Also, how would the US government test the drugs to confirm it was cocaine and fentanyl?

Thread Level: 8

You believe Venezuela and drug cartels over our govt. Of course you do. TDS. I am curious though....

Author: BaronVonZemo (61146 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:54 am on Sep 16, 2025
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...what do you think that Trump is "really doing"?

Thread Level: 9

When you prove me right, it makes my day! Still haven't provided an URL, screen shot

Author: Quest4twelve (7116 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 9:20 am on Sep 16, 2025
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or anything outside Trump's word. You are not the level headed person I was addressing in my OP.

Thread Level: 10

How were you proven right?

Author: BaronVonZemo (61146 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:24 am on Sep 16, 2025
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I'll copy and paste since you're playing illiterate. Here is how to get Baron to shut up or pivot...

Author: Quest4twelve (7116 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 10:15 am on Sep 16, 2025
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Thread Level: 11

He like the other lefties here has zero self awareness.

Author: PaND (2905 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 9:28 am on Sep 16, 2025
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Thread Level: 12

Care to weigh in on the topic or continue to come to Baron's rescue as he drowns in ignorance?

Author: Quest4twelve (7116 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 10:18 am on Sep 16, 2025
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I know, He's bereft of content, but he is a simple window into the programming of the radical Left -

Author: BaronVonZemo (61146 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:31 am on Sep 16, 2025
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and he is useful in that regard.

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