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I get the sense that some people here are more outraged about Kimmel than Kirk.

Author: iairishcheeks (28303 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:23 pm on Sep 19, 2025
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You know who you are and you should be ashamed.

Replies to: I get the sense that some people here are more outraged about Kimmel than Kirk.


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Even for you an awful and childish comparison.

Author: Frank L (64953 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 8:21 pm on Sep 19, 2025
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One perpetrator is an unstable young adult who vented his hurt with a bullet.

Author: conorlarkin (21483 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:07 pm on Sep 19, 2025
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The other perpetrator is the President of the United States using Government leverage and power to silence a late night host for making jokes about Trump.

Perhaps you deem common murder and authoritarianism to be competitive outfit choices for cheerleaders.

I don’t. Grow up.


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Another 80/20 yr on the wrong side of

Author: ColeyO (12661 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:31 pm on Sep 19, 2025
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All we have to do is let people like you keep talking.

Author: MAS (21840 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:42 pm on Sep 19, 2025
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Repeating misinformation in pursuit of misplaced outrage, you should be double ashamed.

Author: iairishcheeks (28303 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:22 pm on Sep 19, 2025
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Right away, Trumpies lied that radical leftists shot Kirk without vetting their claim.

Author: ND521 (9629 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 8:33 pm on Sep 19, 2025
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He was a radical leftist.

Author: iairishcheeks (28303 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:52 pm on Sep 19, 2025
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Link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/09/16/tyler-robinson-what-we-know-new-revelations-in-charlie-kirk-murder/86188463007/

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“Common murder”?! Wow. You are definitely part of the problem. Did you feel glee when you heard?

Author: BaronVonZemo (61282 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:15 pm on Sep 19, 2025
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Did you think of this hateful POS who shot Kirk as a hero?

Did you rationalize this evil with the “killing baby Hitler” Ends Justify the Means argument of the Left?

You won’t answer honestly, or defect I suspect.


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I gather your interaction with young adults charged with murder is zero.

Author: conorlarkin (21483 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:04 pm on Sep 19, 2025
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Read the US Supreme Court decisions — Roper v Simmons, Graham v Florida, Miller v Alabama—addressing juvenile justice. These opinions rely heavily upon social science studies which demonstrate that young adults’ brains do not settle until age 25, earlier for females. These opinions discuss the impulsive nature of young adults, the lack of capacity to think pass the moment.

You often cite the high murder rates in cities. One of the big drivers is social media and the disrespect and slights and juvenile smack talk between players that escalates at mach speed, where the aggrieved party deems that the only fix is to kill the other party, thereby seizing the moment to payback the insult.

Kirk’s killing fits that same mold. But we get it: Kirk’s life has more value to you than some 19 year old black kid from an urban housing project.

Common murder. Yes.


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"I guess Kirk's life has more value to you than a 19yo black kid from an urban housing project" WTF?

Author: BaronVonZemo (61282 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 1:08 am on Sep 20, 2025
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You try to diminish Charlie Kirk and his murder with a pathetic race card non sequitor?!

You are absolutely part of the problem.

Btw, Charlie Kirk's murderer is white, trans, and a 22 yo adult - not a juvenile.
He planned his gruesome murder for wks. He practiced at a range with the rifle. He worked out a getaway and where to hide his weapon, and he knew he needed to retrieve it later (and failed).
Their was no temporary "heat of the moment" - he planned it coldly and evilly. he also shot into a crowded group of people from 200 yards
He specifically stated that he hated Kirk, and that he did not want dialogue but wanted to silence him permanently.

Stop rationalizing what Charlie Kirk's murderer did. You are just finding ways to camouflage your support of the killer. We all see through it.
Your pathetic attempt to tie in this trans violence with racism against blacks is ham handed - reminiscent of the nonsensical Animal House speech where Otter stands up and inanely claims, "I, for one, am not going to stand here and let you bad mouth the United States of America!"

Regarding my experience, you are again wrong. I have sadly been involved with a case where a young person was charged (and convicted) of murder. It also did not fit your stereotyped response.
And from someone who did work in the clinics of a major inner city hood worse than any place that you would dare go, let me tell you that only the most fake white liberal cracker pretending to be down with the brothers uses the term "urban housing project"!


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I do not diminish Kirk’s murder. But I refuse to elevate it from other firearm murders.

Author: conorlarkin (21483 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:42 am on Sep 20, 2025
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In 2023, 17,927 out of 22,830 murders (79%) involved a firearm.

If you were to speak with the loved ones of those 18k victims who were shot and killed, their grief would be no less than what Kirk’s loved ones experience.

And no, Kirk’s death was not committed by “the left.” It was committed by an unstable 22 year old who was struggling with his identity, made worse by escalating cruelty towards transgender folks. We witness such cruelty on this Board daily. Our nation has witnessed mass shootings often perpetrated by young adults who feel completely outcast and isolated.

None of the above excuses or justifies the actions of the shooter in Kirk’s murder. But, trying to understand the “why?” as to shooter’s motive is an important step, as it is in any murder case.

Just watched camera footage from 3-4 properties that captured a daytime murder of a 19 year old, shot and killed by a 21 year old. Murder was orchestrated much like Kirk’s murder, with plan to catch victim by surprise. Senseless. Tragic. But not a national news story.

Like Kirk, one shooter. One perpetrator.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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The "Why?" matters.

Author: iairishcheeks (28303 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:01 pm on Sep 20, 2025
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When you claim that people are "literally Hitler", fascists, an existential threat to democracy, "words are violence"; some young, impressionable and disaffected people will convert that rhetoric into violence. And that is what we are seeing.

Perhaps the closest thing that we have to Nazis is Hamas. And yet we have people from BLM on Twitter to supposedly bright students at elite universities posting shit like paragliders, "Globalize the Intifada"and "From the River to the Sea" after October 7th happened. This level of radicalization does not happen on its own. We are witnessing the left version of American History X.

You can't explain it away as random.


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Quite a bit more.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61282 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:33 pm on Sep 19, 2025
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Is it a competition?

Author: Chris94 (37297 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:33 pm on Sep 19, 2025
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The former is a senseless act of violence. A horrible event.

The latter is an act of repression directed by the president of the United States. A direct assault on the constitution.

And a bigger deal.


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Repeating misinformation in pursuit of misplaced outrage, you should be double ashamed.

Author: iairishcheeks (28303 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:35 pm on Sep 19, 2025
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Sure. Good talk.

Author: Chris94 (37297 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:37 pm on Sep 19, 2025
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Prove that you’re not a spoiled 15 yo teenage girl…and stop rolling your eyes.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61282 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:35 pm on Sep 19, 2025
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He posts like a Valley Girl anyway

Author: ColeyO (12661 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:56 pm on Sep 19, 2025
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GFYS you self righteous prick.

Author: jimbasil (53182 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 5:30 pm on Sep 19, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Irony

Author: irish93 (1805 Posts - Joined: Nov 1, 2009)

Posted at 7:53 pm on Sep 19, 2025
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Jim, you’re a mess.

Author: Hensou (9090 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 6:31 pm on Sep 19, 2025
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He’s an uneducated douche, who relies on this message board for attention.

Author: Domer From Hell (16953 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:26 pm on Sep 19, 2025
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We're all born bald baby!
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FBI Watchlist.

Author: iairishcheeks (28303 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:35 pm on Sep 19, 2025
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There are crazies who always do the wrong thing, sorry we expected better from our govt leaders.

Author: Quest4twelve (7176 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 5:25 pm on Sep 19, 2025
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Charlie can't be brought back from th3bdead but making more wrongs help no one. Our country and democracy will hopefully last longer than any of us.

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