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One cannot support Trump and the First Amendment in the same breath.

Author: conorlarkin (21614 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:05 pm on Sep 21, 2025
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Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/21/us/politics/trump-free-speech.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris

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But 77.3 million can.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61616 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:37 am on Sep 22, 2025
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Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?

Author: Hensou (9255 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 8:39 am on Sep 22, 2025
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Sounds authoritarian. Sounds lefty loony.

You are demanding that people think your way.


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He’s been receiving a lot of help these months by corporations who fire employees

Author: jimbasil (53369 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 9:53 pm on Sep 21, 2025
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who they deem anti MAGA. MSNBC for example firing Matthew Dowd. Law firms moving employees around and offering DJT million dollar services. No wonder he feels empowered.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Really sucks, doesn't it Jim? Who can forget your thundering, righteous voice after The Madness,

Author: MAS (21919 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:10 pm on Sep 21, 2025
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fearlessly defending righties who were doxxed and, sometimes, lost their jobs for things they wrote online or past comments. Kudos. Kudos, I say, for your usual intellectual consistency.

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Okay Mr. Dunderhead, name one righty who was silenced by the federal government.

Author: jimbasil (53369 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 11:16 pm on Sep 21, 2025
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You can’t. But go ahead and try.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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All the people silenced on social media after the federal government pressured Twitter and FB don't

Author: MAS (21919 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:09 am on Sep 22, 2025
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count? Remarkably, under pressure from the feds, Twitter even deplatformed a former POTUS. One judge labeled the feds' pressuring of social media giants to censor speech during COVID the greatest assault on the 1st Amendment in our history. Did they cover the Twitter Files investigation on your news sources, or did they just assure you that there was nothing to see there?

Jim, like the others, I know you don't know what "fascism" means, but I will just tell you one of the defining characteristics of fascism: private businesses that are controlled by the state.


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No they don't count because the gov't tried to quell the misinformation being spread by bad actors

Author: jimbasil (53369 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 12:26 am on Sep 22, 2025
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during the C19 crisis. You know, things like Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine and clorox and UV lamps and a thousand other
bs cures. So yeah, pressuring social media platforms to do the right thing wasn't really the best thing to do but Musk and
FB mostly lied about their doings so it didn't really work and to just point out because of their noncompliance allowing
false information to spread many died instead of doing the right thing. You know, people like Windy Bill and a few others
here spreading bullshit killed others as well as themselves -

But in this thread, it's about facts and truths being assaulted by lies and misinformation and a power hungry douchebag who
wants revenge for being taken to court, convicted because he broke the law a great many times. Fomented an insurrection, cheated
charities, stole from college students, unlawfully created false votes to try to steal and election, tried to coerce a governor
to change votes and on and on.

So go on, tell me about fascism and authoritarianism.


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Are you listening to yourself?

Author: MarkHarman (7472 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:37 am on Sep 22, 2025
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"It's okay for the government to trample on the 1st Amendment if it's done for the right reasons."

I'm 100% opposed to what Trump is doing. You should be 100% opposed to what the Biden Administration did.


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That would make one...

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33999 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:00 am on Sep 22, 2025
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One in a row.

Author: iairishcheeks (28465 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:54 pm on Sep 22, 2025
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No that’s not what I said. I said these are not the same even if

Author: jimbasil (53369 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 8:17 am on Sep 22, 2025
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you try to characterize them as the same. You and MASCHUCKLES are poor readers.

Do better


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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(chuckling)

Author: MAS (21919 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:29 am on Sep 22, 2025
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Chuckle on chuckles, you got no reply?

Author: Quest4twelve (7280 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 7:35 am on Sep 22, 2025
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There is no such thing as "hate speech," as the author claims. Do you believe there is such a thing?

Author: MAS (21919 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:15 pm on Sep 21, 2025
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Supreme Court’s definition of “hate speech” or Trump’s?

Author: conorlarkin (21614 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:22 pm on Sep 21, 2025
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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The SCOTUS has repeatedly ruled that there is no such thing.

Author: MAS (21919 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:31 pm on Sep 21, 2025
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No shit. Well done catching up. Tell Pam Bondi.

Author: conorlarkin (21614 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:38 pm on Sep 21, 2025
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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She's awful. Are you done trying to misdirect? Where do you draw the line on speech?

Author: MAS (21919 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:46 pm on Sep 21, 2025
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Already weighed in last week.

Author: conorlarkin (21614 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:17 pm on Sep 21, 2025
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Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=267595

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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"discriminatory harassment" (chuckling) You gave it away, yes you did.

Author: MAS (21919 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:21 pm on Sep 21, 2025
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In real life, apart from your job, have you ever taken a tough position in which you risked offending someone in a protected class?

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Did you see President Shitbag’s eulogy?

Author: Chris94 (37460 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:40 pm on Sep 21, 2025
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Once upon a time, presidents tried to bring us together…

Link: https://x.com/nickgillespie/status/1969913320133292160?s=46&t=kVeQeQf8ed0KokuRgfOE0g

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So, you expect concessions to those who encouraged & celebrated the assassination. Very refined post

Author: BaronVonZemo (61616 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:24 am on Sep 22, 2025
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I expect leadership. Kirk’s wife was a leader. Not your hero.

Author: Chris94 (37460 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:26 am on Sep 22, 2025
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Since your idea of leadership is appeasement, your errant response is unsurprising.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61616 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:51 am on Sep 22, 2025
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“Make no mistake, that rifle was aimed at Charlie Kirk. But that bullet was meant for every single one of us (Christians/conservatives)….President Donald Trump

He’s right.
By the killer and many other LGBTQ/Left Wing/Intifada attackers’ own words, they are not interested in dialogue - just complete capitulation.
We must stand up to them.
Great leadership,


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Once upon a time, the president thought voters for the other guy were garbage.

Author: NedoftheHill (45223 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 8:49 pm on Sep 21, 2025
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That was Biden. Obama wanted hispanics to vote so that they could punish their enemies. "Once upon a time" was Bush, I guess?

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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A weak and stupid whatabout effort. Even for you.

Author: Chris94 (37460 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:21 pm on Sep 21, 2025
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You are the one who said "once upon a time." We can't respond to your own references to the past?

Author: NedoftheHill (45223 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 1:26 pm on Sep 22, 2025
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You have to rig the game to win a discussion point? I expect more from you, but you always disappoint.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Hearing the left whine about Free Speech is awesome.

Author: jakers (14151 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:33 pm on Sep 21, 2025
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As long as you aren't talking about/writing about COVID vaccine alternatives or racial differences.

Author: MAS (21919 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:17 pm on Sep 21, 2025
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I mean, that kind of talk is dangerous.

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