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To shutdown or not to shutdown... that is the question?

Author: Curly1918 (16960 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:23 am on Sep 22, 2025
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Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer

The slings and arrows of outrageous progressives,

Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,

And by opposing lose the midterms?

Will Chucky cave again?


Link: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/5-things-watch-shutdown-looms-210000007.html

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Thread Level: 2

Shut Down is best way to reveal unnecessary govt waste - better than DOGE

Author: BaronVonZemo (61616 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:35 am on Sep 22, 2025
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The days of pinning govt shut downs using Dem MSM are done (for now at least).

People don’t believe the MSM,

People don’t believe Schumer,
Dems are one’s to block it,

Trump & R’s will use to acquire new instances of govt waste.

The only reason Schumer hasn’t caved is due to his own fear from his party’s anger - but they haven’t accepted reality yet.


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It still does not work for the military and law enforcement

Author: Fisher01 (6491 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:17 pm on Sep 22, 2025
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Read your own article…recent history shows “TACO” caving after needlessly shutting down the

Author: TyroneIrish (22071 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:28 am on Sep 22, 2025
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the government. He couldn’t even read his own party…only a fraction supported his Wall funding…and even Conservatives need Healthcare.

btw, if you also read what the American public is telling you in their opinion poll responses to all of DJT’s policies, your poetic effort would convey a warning to all GOP Midterm candidates.


Thread Level: 3

Trump yielded because he would have been blamed for the shutdown. This time it would be the Dems.

Author: Curly1918 (16960 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 11:37 am on Sep 22, 2025
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Trump is to blame again for all the reasons he’s deep underwater in opinion polls regarding his

Author: TyroneIrish (22071 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:53 am on Sep 22, 2025
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Policies and Performance.

Thread Level: 5

Hilarious, the R plan is a clean CR, the D plan is 1,000 pages.

Author: PaND (2979 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 1:36 pm on Sep 22, 2025
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The leftist media does not have a leg to stand on, but I am sure they will try to lie their way through it.

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What's not funny is the GOP "Clean CR" is purposely lacking in specifics that can be 'reneged' on

Author: TyroneIrish (22071 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:48 pm on Sep 22, 2025
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later...here's a quick summary or the problems it presents...Remember that DJT is on record as being AGAINST cooperation with Dems...in short, he says he HATES them. It's not wise to cave to bullies...things will only get worse.

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AI Overview
While Republican leaders frame their "clean" Continuing Resolution (CR) as a nonpartisan, temporary funding extension, opponents argue its flat funding and lack of specific directives create significant problems. These issues range from cuts to social programs and defense readiness to potential unilateral power for the executive branch. The ongoing dispute increases the risk of a government shutdown.

Budget and spending issues

De Facto Cuts to Non-Defense Spending: By keeping funding at previous fiscal-year levels, the CR effectively enacts spending cuts when inflation is factored in, disproportionately affecting non-defense programs. In March 2025, one version of the CR proposed cutting non-defense spending by $13 billion compared to the previous year.

Blank Check for the Administration: A "clean" CR lacks the specific funding allocations, known as earmarks or congressional directives, that are typically included in full appropriations bills. Without these, the administration gains significant power to control or redirect funding for various programs.

NASA: A "clean" CR proposed in September 2025 raised concerns that the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) could unilaterally enforce deep budget cuts proposed by the White House, including a 47% reduction in science programs.

CDC: In a full-year CR, funding for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention could be reallocated into broad categories, shifting control of public health priorities from Congress to the administration.

Military Readiness and Funding: Freezing defense spending at current levels could hinder military readiness and modernization. Critics cite potential delays in shipbuilding, disruptions to weapons programs, and insufficient funds for military pay raises.

Funding Uncertainty: Critics argue that passing a CR to delay negotiations for a full-year deal creates uncertainty and instability. Some Republicans and Democrats have expressed frustration with the tactic, noting that it rarely results in a faster appropriations process.

Impacts on social programs and services

Health Care and Research: Continuing resolutions frequently fail to provide sufficient funding or directives for critical health programs, leaving them vulnerable to cuts.
One version of the CR cut $280 million from the National Institutes of Health (NIH), eliminating congressional directives for specific research on diseases like cancer and Alzheimer's.

Democrats and some Republicans have raised alarm over expiring Affordable Care Act (ACA) tax credits, which would increase premiums for millions of Americans if not extended.

Veterans' Care: A full-year CR passed in March 2025 failed to include $22.8 billion in funding needed for veterans exposed to toxic substances, creating future uncertainty in medical care.

Housing and Nutrition: Opponents point to cuts in programs for low-income Americans, including significant reductions in rental assistance and emergency food aid.
District of Columbia: In one CR considered in early 2025, over $900 million was slashed from Washington D.C.'s budget, threatening to furlough teachers and other city employees.

Political maneuvering

Shifting Positions: In September 2025, a role reversal occurred where Republicans advocated for a "clean" CR to buy more time for negotiations, a tactic previously used by Democrats. Democrats, in turn, attached other demands to their own funding proposals.

Pressure for Shutdowns: Using a "clean" CR to advance a partisan agenda increases the likelihood of a government shutdown, as opposing parties refuse to pass it without including their own priorities.

Ceding Negotiating Power: Democrats have argued that voting for a "clean" CR gives Republicans leverage and undermines their own negotiating position, while Republicans argue they are simply trying to pass a responsible funding measure.
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All bunk, the clean CR is to give time for the passage of the 12 appropriation bills required.

Author: PaND (2979 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 2:20 pm on Sep 22, 2025
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Dems as usual want more pork as is show by their bill.

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Read the summary that was posted…it’s by no means “Clean”.

Author: TyroneIrish (22071 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 5:14 pm on Sep 22, 2025
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I read the CR, you don’t understand what you posted.

Author: PaND (2979 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 5:50 pm on Sep 22, 2025
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Thread Level: 10

Read what I posted and you’ll understand.

Author: TyroneIrish (22071 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:13 pm on Sep 22, 2025
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You don’t understand it.

Author: PaND (2979 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 10:57 pm on Sep 22, 2025
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Read what you post.

Thread Level: 2

Shut it down for a couple of months.

Author: Hensou (9255 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 10:14 am on Sep 22, 2025
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