Is Hillary Clinton an Eva Peron or a monster?

Author: windybill (3826 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:00 pm on Mar 7, 2008

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Re: Is Hillary Clinton an Eva Peron or a monster?

Author: NDSoxfan (4313 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:07 pm on Mar 7, 2008

No doubt about it she is a monster. The most polarizing political figure in our nation's history.

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She's kinda an Eva Peronster...She gets the Latino vote...but she has Frankenstein's hips and butt..

Author: GOAT (3793 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:13 pm on Mar 7, 2008

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I'd describe her as

Author: TontoGoldstein (11011 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:50 pm on Mar 7, 2008

a bag of dicks and Obama as the mustard man.

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She is the same as McCain, more than willing to carry on with the Bush-con policies that have ..

Author: jOliver (193 Posts - Joined: Aug 31, 2007)

Posted at 3:35 pm on Mar 7, 2008

.. served our nation so well.

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Yeah, so all we need is hope and change....

Author: Domer From Hell (10758 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:38 pm on Mar 7, 2008

Please give me Obama's definition of hope and change.

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Re: Yeah, so all we need is hope and change....

Author: TakethetrainKnute (16915 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:41 pm on Mar 7, 2008

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A sense of humor is not required here...

Author: GOAT (3793 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:10 pm on Mar 7, 2008

...but I for one appreciate it nonetheless...

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That is sweet. Nice post!

Author: Domer From Hell (10758 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:42 pm on Mar 7, 2008

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For God's sake, she'd be following a cabinet that comprised Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rove

Author: McSweeney (17753 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:17 pm on Mar 7, 2008

We're talking about three guys who are, in my book, legitimately evil sacks of crap.

Fretting over Hillary being in the Oval Office is like being afraid to offer Patton a drink after you've just had an all-night bender with Stalin, Hitler and Mussolini.


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For God's sake, Jamie Gorelick et al comprised a "Clinton cabinet" that allowed 911...

Author: Killshot (13040 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:26 pm on Mar 7, 2008

...so stuff it.

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So a guy sells his house and moves out of town, 9 months later that house burns down...

Author: McSweeney (17753 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:14 am on Mar 8, 2008

and you're blaming the fire on the guy that moved out of town?

Okay, sure.


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Yes, if he left the house with a...

Author: Killshot (13040 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:21 pm on Mar 9, 2008

...faulty furnace, a gas leak, flammable rags in a secret closet in the basement, and a neighbor who threatened to burn his house down if the guy ever fucked with his wife again. Oh, and the night before he leaves, he gets a BJ from the neighbor's wife before telling her she's a worthless whore. Yeah, that's about right...I might blame him then.

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Are you joking with that statement?

Author: irishboyd (2325 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:26 am on Mar 8, 2008

How is that a good comparitive analogy to Killshot's statement? You are going to tell me that the Clinton administration didnt play a huge part in 9/11 by not taking out bin Laden when they had the chance? Of course, I can see why Clinton didnt do it. He was too busy fucking WH interns in the oval office, but hey, its not like he had anything more important to do. You really are a huge, liberal pussy, arent you?

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Please provide some details of actions on their part for making that statement.

Author: Joe McLaughlin (961 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:47 pm on Mar 7, 2008

Is it simply because they are Republicans reviled in the New york times and like drive bys?

When Carl Rove plies his trade as a strategist to keep the administration in the best possible light, what makes him different and more of a scoundrel than any other political strategist of high standing?

And please don't name the numerous set up "incidents" like "outing an assistant administrator at the CIA who had no covert responsibilities and was only as clandestine as the administration (to whom she was serving) needed her to be.

Were any of them ever caught destroying the files of a staffer found dead in a DC park? or stuffing classified documents in their pants, or ordering and/or allowing the murder of 89 people, mostly citizens of the US in their home in Waco? or pointing automatic weapons at American citizens, in their home, while hijacking one of their relatives in Miami? and much much more.

Gimme a break! At those levels of government nobody is totally virtuous, but she was a part of each and every event described above, and her staff is comprised of the same suspects.


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Good lord, pull your head out of your ass

Author: McSweeney (17753 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:56 pm on Mar 7, 2008

As I said to Domer, I'll cave on Cheney and Rummy if you want me to. They're probably not evil, just assholes.

But as for Karl Rove, five words: South Carolina, 2000 Republican primary.

This isn't even a conservative vs. liberal issue. Anyone who has been a long-time champion and admirer of Senator John McCain cannot with a straight face or sincere heart espouse an ounce of admiration or respect for Karl Rove.

And BTW, almost half of what you said in your post was total bullshit. Does anyone blame Lady Bird Johnson for the Vietnam War, or Pat Nixon for Watergate? Uh, no.


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Said the ass to the head...

Author: Killshot (13040 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:33 pm on Mar 7, 2008

...McS, you are more full of shit than any of us. First, even McCain and Rove have now closed ranks:

"Karl Rove last week announced that he had given $2300 to the presumptive GOP presidential nominee John McCain.

Asked over the weekend about the donation, McCain said he has "always respected Karl Rove as one of the smart great political minds I think in American politics," and specifically refused to condemn Rove's hyper-partisan campaign tactics (including his smears against McCain in the 2000 South Carolina race)."

--from Arianna Huffington's blog of all places.

And it would appear that Rove, McCain, and the rest of the GOP have skin about 3 parsecs thicker than yours or your political leaders...which is why they will lose.


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The term I believe is lip service

Author: McSweeney (17753 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:08 am on Mar 8, 2008

McCain is just playing the game. No man with that integrity and character--all of which I readily acknowledge McCain has--would let what Rove did slide.

The over/under on how many Bush/Rove cronies McCain offers jobs in the new White House is 1. I'll bet $100 on the under.


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Fine analogy and segue into a well-posited conclusion...

Author: GOAT (3793 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:07 pm on Mar 7, 2008

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Re: Good lord, pull your head out of your ass

Author: WoodstockIrish (9737 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:01 pm on Mar 7, 2008

As I said to Domer, I'll cave on Cheney and Rummy if you want me to. They're probably not evil, just assholes

Hmmmm....assholes, kind of like Billary and Bill huh?


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Not evil, but definite assholes

Author: Domer From Hell (10758 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:02 pm on Mar 7, 2008

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Re: Not evil, but definite assholes

Author: WoodstockIrish (9737 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:02 pm on Mar 7, 2008

Pieces of shit in my book....

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I'll second that. How about Obama? Nice guy or POS?

Author: Domer From Hell (10758 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:04 pm on Mar 7, 2008

His wife is a racist bitch

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Re: I'll second that. How about Obama? Nice guy or POS?

Author: WoodstockIrish (9737 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:17 pm on Mar 7, 2008

Jury is out. Dont know enough about him...seems to be an awesome speaker.....

I still am confident that McCain can beat either one of them

Which says a lot about how bad off the democratic party is....

The republican's, courtesy of Bush, have served up this election on a silver platter, and yet because the best they can come up with is Hillary and Obama it appears that McCain can be in a close race against either one of em.....pretty pathetic as I dont think very much of McCain either


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Good point about the 2000 South Carolina Republican Primary...

Author: Domer From Hell (10758 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:00 pm on Mar 7, 2008

That pissed me off to no end. I did vote for McCain in the CA Primary by the way.

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Sad thing is that I guarantee those tactics will be used if Obama gets the Dem nomination

Author: McSweeney (17753 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:12 am on Mar 8, 2008

I'm pretty much counting on the GOP machine emphasizing his middle name south of the Mason-Dixon line. From the moment LBJ signed the Voting Rights Act, the GOP and the race card is like a moth to the flame.

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I see your point, but I don't see the comparison. Didn't the GOP support the voter's right act....

Author: Domer From Hell (10758 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:57 pm on Mar 8, 2008

and the weren't majority of Dems were against it?

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Re: Sad thing is that I guarantee those tactics will be used if Obama gets the Dem nomination

Author: WoodstockIrish (9737 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:34 am on Mar 8, 2008

Like the Dems wouldnt do the same thing if the shoe was on the other foot...

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What cabinet position did 'Rowe' hold?

Author: Nigel Tufnel (4340 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:42 pm on Mar 7, 2008

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General term for high-level staff, smartass

Author: McSweeney (17753 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:16 am on Mar 8, 2008

And last time I checked, White House Deputy Chief of Staff is arguably the #2 position in DC when it comes to policy decisions. It certainly was the #2 position during the Dubya years.

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OK then

Author: Nigel Tufnel (4340 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:52 am on Mar 8, 2008

If the Deputy Chief of Staff is 'arguably the '#2 position in DC when it comes to policy decisions', can you name the Deputy Chief of Staff? Without looking it up?

Didn't think so.

Being your fact-checker could be a full-time job.


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This is an interesting question...one that deserves an answer...

Author: GOAT (3793 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:09 pm on Mar 7, 2008

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Secretary of Oz in McSweenWorld.

Author: Killshot (13040 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:34 pm on Mar 7, 2008

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Forget it...he's rollin'.

Author: Sorin (475 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:00 pm on Mar 7, 2008

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Once again, a little over the top....

Author: Domer From Hell (10758 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:29 pm on Mar 7, 2008

I think Hillary has good intentions for the country. She's not evil incarnate, like Samantha Power claims. On the flip side, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rove aren't evil either. Politics is a dirty business and we have to remember that elected officials and their staff aren't going to please everyone.

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I might give you Rummy, maybe even Cheney because I met his wife and she rocks

Author: McSweeney (17753 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:38 pm on Mar 7, 2008

But I'm not being remotely hyperbolic about Rove. I believe him to be truly and genuinely evil. The world will be a better place the day Rove is no longer stealing its oxygen.

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Rove did some things that made me cringe...

Author: Domer From Hell (10758 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:42 pm on Mar 7, 2008

but he is a political genius. Calling him evil, ok, but wishing him death? A little too far, even by my standards.

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I think this world is made better by good people and made worse by bad people

Author: McSweeney (17753 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:45 pm on Mar 7, 2008

I'm not one to celebrate anyone's death, let alone wish them dead. That takes a lot of hate, and I'm just not wired that way.

But I will be very, VERY ambivalent the day the story breaks that Karl Rove has kicked the bucket. The death of a cat would move me more, and I hate cats.


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Fair enough, now why do you hate cats??

Author: Domer From Hell (10758 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:51 pm on Mar 7, 2008



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You could warn me that I'm about to see a 600-pound lion eat a dude's arm

Author: McSweeney (17753 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:58 pm on Mar 7, 2008

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That was some serious stupidity being in the cage with that mother f'er

Author: Domer From Hell (10758 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:05 pm on Mar 7, 2008

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So.....you are saying she's closer to being a drunken monster???

Author: windybill (3826 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:26 pm on Mar 7, 2008

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