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I agree with what Biden said in the speech. Lousy not doing a better job getting

Author: jimbasil (52634 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 5:41 pm on Aug 16, 2021
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out those who assisted US while we were there. That will haunt us for decades to come.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk

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Thread Level: 2

It was overall a strong speech and it clearly is how he feels. He’s not backing down, and shouldn’t

Author: Frank L (64677 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 6:00 pm on Aug 16, 2021
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on the decision. It could have been better on why it unfolded as it did.

The whining of crocodile tears for the Afghans only goes so far though. We didn’t tell them to surrender their nation en masse to those savages. They decided to do it. And he’s right that if anything, their cravenness shows why it was the right call to leave.


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Three prior Presidents did not want their fingerprints on the withdrawal.

Author: conorlarkin (21009 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:20 pm on Aug 16, 2021
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Biden chose not to kick the can down the road.

The management and execution of the withdrawal has been a clusterfuck. All on Biden.

Still very delicate and dangerous. Biden can take his medicine and justified criticism when the operation is finished.

Things could still go from bad to worse (as several posters are hoping to happen).


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Don't care how he feels. This bothers me: he is telling Taliban our evacuation will be quick & small

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:20 pm on Aug 16, 2021
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Don't promise anything openly, monron. Just do it if you want to do it quickly and evacuate less people.

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This is what Biden said just a couple of weeks ago with complete certitude as he was forewarned-ABC

Author: BaronVonZemo (59899 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 5:46 pm on Aug 16, 2021
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There is no talking your way out of this. Biden also actually moved the date up when he wasn't ready with VISA's for our Afghani allies. Even ABC News expressed serious concern about it and questioned Biden, but he blew it off.

This is beyond horrible, and it never, ever should have happened. It didn't need to happen. And yeah, I am worked up a bit as I think about it.


Link: https://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/biden-moves-us-troop-withdrawal-august-78742932

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Um, so you disagree with Biden - we should stay in Afghanistan indefinitely? What's yer point?

Author: jimbasil (52634 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 5:54 pm on Aug 16, 2021
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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No,that isn't even in question. I disagree with how badly this was planned and executed by him.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59899 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:34 pm on Aug 16, 2021
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Biden deflected to that argument, but very few are questioning whther we needed to leave. It's how he did it. And as you can see on that news report, Biden was specifically warned and questioned about the lack of planning for removal of Afghani allies, and he blew off the reporters and said it wasn't a concern. he was even specifically asked about allies who were not able to get VISA's and he blew that off as well with complete certitude as always.

And, of course, he blamed Trump for having set a date for wothdrawal. He undid almost everything on earth that Trump did, but he implied that he couldn't change this date even when it looked like they needed more time. Biden controlled the House and the Senate and the White House, and he didn't do a thing to prevent this when he could easily have done so. Trump & Biden agreed on the need to withdraw, and trump had long ago picked a time. But after a year and a half in office, Biden couldn't see the obvious problem that everyone without senility could see. So now after the disaster, he blames Trump and pretends that he had no choice but to keep the deadline. What is worse is that he proved he didn't need to follow the withdraw date at all when he actually moved up the date for 9/11 to 8/31.
in your TDS state, you can't allow yourself to see this.

We have a total leadership void, and you will clearly support the Democrat even in actions that result in innocent allies being dropped from the outsides of our planes at 2000 feet.


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Strong speech? Ya all think China, Taliban, NK, & Putin are shivering in their boots?

Author: ELP (9573 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 6:45 pm on Aug 16, 2021
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