I realize Chris will belittle me again and Ty will come up with some counter link, but how do you explain this? From Johns Hopkins, no less: "The researchers analyzed data from the Boston Birth Cohort, a 20-year study of early life factors influencing pregnancy and child development. They found that children whose cord blood samples contained the highest levels of acetaminophen—the generic name for the drug Tylenol—were roughly three times more likely to be diagnosed with ADHD or autism spectrum disorder later in childhood, compared to children with the lowest levels of acetaminophen in their cord blood."
Link: https://hub.jhu.edu/2019/11/05/acetaminophen-pregnancy-autism-adhd
Mark, I would not change my practice patterns based on what has come out so far (and I have used Tylenol as has every other doctor for years. HOWEVER…..
I have also been around long enough to know that ANY drug not necessary should be avoided during pregnancy because we are FAR from knowing everything. That rule includes all drugs including Tylenol.
I do think that this study along w the Boston meta deserve a close look w prospective randomized trials where nebulous factors such as self reporting are taken out of the study design. This researcher knows that, and he published this study just to make the point that there is a potential association and we need to look at this. It was published undoubtedly as well because of all of the political in the topic.
Idiots on this board who know nothing about this want Tylenol to be used broadly in PG simply because Trump said not to do so. The same is true for some going in the other direction.
We can only act on what we have as our best data. That data is ever changing….and it may or may not be changed with further findings.
I don’t recommend any drug in PG unless the benefits outweigh the risks. The benefits are usually minor for acetaminophen, but sometimes not. It’s an case by case decision for the Dr and the patient at this point. I certainly wouldn’t (and never have even before this issue came into the public eye) recommend a drug use without a strong reason
I was very clear towards Chris to say the studies appear to show Tylenol safe up to a certain threshold. You would know better than I what that threshold may look like. But unfortunately you don't know better than Ty. Ask him.
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Your nutty narrative. Sad, but true.
Seems like it, right?
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...here's what they concluded...
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Wang points out that although the study found a consistent association between biomarkers of acetaminophen and its metabolites in cord blood and child risk of ADHD and autism spectrum disorder, it should not be interpreted that the Tylenol use causes these disorders.
"More studies are clearly needed to further clarify the concern," Wang says. "Until it is certain, parents and providers may want to consider the benefit and potential risk when making a decision on the use of acetaminophen during pregnancy or the peripartum period."
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The Johns Hopkins team is NOT calling for a halt in the use of Tylenol during pregnancy, because it is Still Not Certain that Acetaminophen Causes Autism or ADHD....you misread their conclusion.
And if you would spend 5 minutes outside the imbecile bubble you'd hear people say that the evidence is more mixed than it is for vaccines (which are not related to autism), but that the biggest studies suggest that there is no connection.
No other pain killer is OK'd for pregnant women. So those who avoid taking Tylenol risk exposing their fetuses to fevers - which are much more dangerous than the tenuous connection to autism.
So this is harmful bullshit.
Let's go over what it said: "children whose cord blood samples contained the highest levels of acetaminophen—the generic name for the drug Tylenol—were roughly three times more likely to be diagnosed with ADHD or autism spectrum disorder."
"Highest" levels. You think I'm the idiot? I concede using acetaminophen isn't a correlation as long as it's used below a certain threshold, as the study indicates. Are you willing to concede there's a correlation if used past a certain threshold? Remember, that's what the Harvard study also found.
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I never said taking Tylenol was unsafe. What I said was research makes it clear taking more than a certain threshold is correlated to ADHD and autism, as the two studies state.
I think you disagree with me simply because I was the one who pointed something out. And I'm about to put you into the Lack-Of-Logic Hall of Fame with charter member Ty. I concede you're incredibly intelligent but like many highly intelligent people, somehow the logic gene wasn't given to you.
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Gynecologists (Baron's Specialty), as well as many other Physicians and Scientists all recommend the use of 'Tylenol' in order to reduce the risk of harm to mother and baby during pregnancy...after consultation with their doctor, and then only in the lowest dosage and frequency needed to treat the fever....they do not categorically advise against taking that fever reducing drug, since the alternatives entail more risk to mother and baby.
The members of those organizations have seen all the studies...and more...that you reference.. They care as much as anyone for the health and well-being of pregnant moms and babies.
BTW, ask Baron if he agrees with ACOG...and if he's ever advised his patients to take Tylenol when they've experienced fevers Surprisingly, I haven't heard a peep from him over this issue that lands squarely in his bailiwick.
Link: https://www.marchofdimes.org/find-support/blog/can-having-fever-while-pregnant-hurt-my-baby
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You know better than all experts, because you have Google!
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At least in subjects that they are not experts in.
They trust the actual experts. Unlike MAGA cretins who think their dumbass uneducated opinions based on podcasts carry equal weight as those of the experts.
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use of its products during pregnancy. TDS is very much a thing.
You seem like that type.
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