Should Hamas accept the peace plan on the table? Why or why not?
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Link: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna234533
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if it makes Trump look good, then they have to refuse the deal. He is allowed no positive news
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21. The next Democrat president will restore USAID funding to Hamas.
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It shouldn't be up to Hamas...any deal must have a coalition of Israeli, U.S. and Arab States in
full support...along with a commitment to a Two-State Solution. Security is paramount and a combined force from the backers...perhaps including UN forces (a'la Kosovo)...should provide it. Beyond that, the political solution will require compromises as outlined in the attached article below, and linked...
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/03/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-postwar-plan.html
btw, the final Deal must not have any linkage to Trump's business interests...perhaps the ultimate 'Deal Breaker'...
Link: https://oxfordpoliticalreview.com/2024/08/24/the-strategic-dilemmas-of-un-transitional-administration-in-gaza/
Did you read the proposal? It's very, very fair
I'm convinced Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer could secretly give any plan to Trump as an experiment and you and other left wingers would automatically oppose it.
Looks like it’s trending in that direction. Fingers crossed
Fortunately the Mullahs seem preoccupied containing public outrage to the latest murder of a young women by their “morality” police. If that regime topples there is a real chance for Mid East peace.
Link: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/29/trumps-gaza-peace-plan-welcomed-by-arab-and-islamic-countries-the-west
Hamas & Palestinians won't accept a two state solution. They only want a one state solution.
That is the problem here. Israel has tried to give them a two state solution several times now, but the Palestinians and Hamas keep rejecting it.
Not sure Trump and Arab nations can force Hamas & Palestinians to accept it. That would require Gazans and Palestinians to love their own children more than they love killing Israeli children, and we haven't seen any evidence of that yet.
Bibi and his right wing cohorts have no interest in a two state solution...Israel needs new leaders,
as does the PA, and ultimately a strong U.S., Arab States, and UN coalition to oppose Iran and its proxy, Hamas. Tom Friedman speaks of that in a NYT article I can't immediately locate, but the following audio podcast (~30 min) has him talking about the elements of a Two State Solution...worth a listen, ever if in bits and pieces. TF has more knowledge and background on the Middle East than all of us here combined...
Bibi has agree to the proposal, which would ultimately lead to a two state solution.
19, While Gaza re-development advances and when the PA reform program is faithfully carried out, the conditions may finally be in place for a credible pathway to Palestinian self-determination and statehood, which we recognize as the aspiration of the Palestinian people.
20. The United States will establish a dialogue between Israel and the Palestinians to agree on a political horizon for peaceful and prosperous co-existence.
Not exactly...
...from the attached article...
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His (Bibi's) first response to his countrymen today has been to publicly emphasize that he did not, in fact, agree to a Palestinian state.
"Absolutely not, It's not even written in the agreement," he said in response to a question on camera. "But we did say one thing - that we would forcibly resist a Palestinian state."
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The article goes on to discuss a possible dropping of outstanding charges against him, and allow him to gain accolades for signing the deal, but for all intents and purposes lose his political life...to be determined...
Link: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0jq63edv21o
A two state solution? How could Israel be safe with savages that want to exterminate them living…
next door? And Arab nations don’t deserve a say, either. What kind of aid have they given? Have they offered refuge to the Palestinians? They don’t want them in their countries.
Israel's very existence was created in the context of a Palestinian Arab state, as part of the 1947
United Nations Partition Plan...and it has been United States Policy since then. Given that background, how do you expect the surrounding Arab nations to ever support an Israeli 'One State' outcome?...it's a recipe for continued conflict.
btw, Biden and Saudi Arabia were very close to building a Two State solution...until Hamas attacked Israel (with, per the Israeli Times...funding encouraged by Bibi...do a search if you doubt that)...both Iran and Netanyahu's right wing extremists want their own One State Solution...both need to be replaced by a rational coalition. Trump isn't going to help achieve that end.
A two state solution is not possible as long as Hamas is their leadership…
And Palestine was a British mandate…a fake territory. They have no legitimate claim to anything. In fact Palestinians are nothing more than Jordanians with a victim complex. Fuck those savages.
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Never forget that Palestinians were celebrating when 9/11 happened. Fuckers were cheering and carrying on in the Weat Bank and in Gaza. They can all rot in hell for all I care.
Since Hamas hasn't won the "Hearts and Minds" of all Palestinians, it is definitely possible, with
the right leadership among Palestinians, Israelis, Arabs, as well as Europe and the U.S. to achieve the only viable long-term term solution...i.e. Two Independent and Democratic States.
The attached article is just a small aperture into a huge issue, but the source is credible.
Link: https://home.dartmouth.edu/news/2024/10/palestinian-pollster-discusses-attitudes-toward-hamas
Nope…
Fuck them again for celebrating on October 8th. They’re a savage culture that wants to destroy Israel, kill and rape Israelis, and they want everything that’s influenced by the west destroyed.
I absolutely respect your background and opinion of the viciousness that Hamas represents…they need
to be soundly and permanently defeated…but…by no means are all or even most Palestinians cut from that cloth. IMO, Peace = Respect and without it there’s no good outcome for anyone. It’s up to Israel, the Arab states, the U.S., Europe and the entire UN to unite behind a two state solution…make it happen…and then use the combined power of that consortium to keep that way.
I’ll never believe in a two state solution. It would only bolster the Palestinians terroristic ways
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Israel's biggest error was not making unconditional surrender the goal from the start.
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Hamas only wants to exterminate Israelis. I say let the IDF carpet bomb those savages
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It is a great deal. But it doesn't get them what they really want, which is extermination of Jews.
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Agreed. As long as there is one Jew alive in Israel, they will not stop.
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