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To libs who think it’s wrong to send NG into blue cities to protect fed agents doing their job-

Author: BaronVonZemo (61955 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:35 pm on Oct 7, 2025
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Stop attacking federal agents, and the NG won’t be needed.

You cannot simply refuse to comply with laws you don’t like. You cannot act out with violence because the majority of the country does not agree with you and your agenda. We are a country of laws, and you must follow them too (“No Kings” doesn’t just apply to your opponents).

If you cannot fathom this message, let me put it more succinctly: F you. We will meet your violence with courage, and you will then shrink like the cowards that you really are.

That is all.


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Dem elites had no issue w/ the NG removing illegals at Martha's Vineyard.

Author: ELP (10483 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 9:09 am on Oct 8, 2025
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Illinois leaders had no problem calling out the NG for the 1997 Bulls championship dealing with those drunken loser idiots. . The NG was called out as a response to Covid in 2020 while Dem Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot was getting her hair done against her own orders. Chicago Dem Mayor Lori Lightfoot requested, and was granted, the NG in response to the George Floyd peaceful protests in 2020, Again, in 2021, Chicago Dem Mayor Lori Lightfoot requested, and was granted, the NG in response to the Officer Derek Chauvin verdict and those peaceful protests. Dem leaders in Illinois deployed the NG for all kinds of Dem violent unrest in the late 1960s and lest we forget that Dem leaders called out the NG to protect their Dem elites in 2024 and set up protests zones blocks away from the convention for their recent Dem gathering. Democrats do love the NG when it's politically convenient.

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You are so Jaundiced...the NG was employed to assist immigrants in getting safe living

Author: TyroneIrish (22492 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:50 am on Oct 8, 2025
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accommodations at Joint Base Cape Cod, after having been callously flown there as a political stunt by a MAGA governor...not remotely like the ersatz Policing mission being employed by our Wannabe Fascist President, Donald J. Trump.

You spend so much time at Notre Dame, yet you reject the ethos of the University in reaching out to aid those less fortunate. Maybe you should find somewhere else to hang out and watch football.


Link: https://www.npr.org/2022/09/16/1123521033/marthas-vineyard-migrants-sent-to-cape-cod

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Same thing here - NG helping residents in getting safe living

Author: LanceManion (9007 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 11:15 am on Oct 8, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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In MA the NG wasn’t armed and replacing local police…not the same, Lance…btw, don’t take any

Author: TyroneIrish (22492 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:25 am on Oct 8, 2025
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Cognition tests today…you’re not prepared.

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We're talking about IL, not MA. Man those DC people love them some ICE.

Author: LanceManion (9007 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 1:59 pm on Oct 8, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Great post highlighting liberal hypocrisy.It's really about libs wanting to use violence to overturn

Author: BaronVonZemo (61955 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:45 am on Oct 8, 2025
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laws.

They don't want the NG because then they cannot use violence and intimidation to oppose laws.


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All true, they also have no issue with the Guard in NYC.

Author: PaND (3053 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 11:10 am on Oct 8, 2025
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The hypocrisy of the left is laughable.

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Read my post...while it won't change you, at least you'll know how foolish you are...e.g. there was

Author: TyroneIrish (22492 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:01 am on Oct 8, 2025
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not a scintilla of 'violence' involved with the deployment of the Massachusetts NG aiding the displaced Immigrants there...it was a classic peaceful use of NG resources...not the adversarial use that your preferred Felon, Rapist, Fraud, Insurrectionist President chooses.

Your posts are a disgrace to what the University of Notre Dame stands for...and teaches to its students. What do you "Fight For"?...apparently as much harm to the weak and oppressed as you can muster.


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If this was the Post Office and not ICE, would people feel differently?

Author: LanceManion (9007 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 7:24 am on Oct 8, 2025
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In other words, if Federal employees aren't allowed to do their job either because of the incalcitrance of local officials/police or just plain incompetence, should the Federal government just stop doing that work in that particular state?

What if Utah and its entire population, let's say, just decided to stop paying Federal taxes? Would that be ok?

If you don't want to be subject to the laws of the U.S. and uphold those laws, then there's a process for that: secession. States don't set immigration laws. The Fedeal government does.


Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Yes.The Left is using violence to block enforcement of laws they don’t like. They lost at the ballot

Author: BaronVonZemo (61955 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:48 am on Oct 8, 2025
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so now they resort to cowardly violence.

The tax example is an excellent one.

If they succeed in preventing enforcement, they will start using the same violent template against all other laws that they don’t like. Guaranteed.


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Click your heels 3 times, and say, “President Trump has no lawful authority.”

Author: conorlarkin (21815 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:21 pm on Oct 7, 2025
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Link: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/california-newsom-trump-administration-national-guard-deployment-rcna235726

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Stop committing violence against officers enforcing the law and there’s no need for the NG.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61955 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:39 am on Oct 8, 2025
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Your “RESIST” against the election results has crossed into illegality and violence.
You Conor have no legal authority to harbor criminals illegally.


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Parroting falsehoods doesn’t change the legal standard.

Author: conorlarkin (21815 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:47 am on Oct 8, 2025
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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W/out left wing violence against fed officers trying to enforce the law, NG wouldn’t be needed.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61955 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:56 am on Oct 8, 2025
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If you succeed with your violence here, there is no other law that you do not like that you will not oppose violently.
That will be chaos and open rebellion. This is getting there.

Stop etching slogans into your bullet shells. You lost the election. The immigration law is the federal law of the land - passed constitutionally. All states are required to follow federal law.
Will you start attacking the IRS agents next for laws you don’t like? FBI agents? DNR agents?

You are a radical brazenly opposing the constitution of our country and then laughably accusing the other side of doing what you yourself are doing - breaking the law. Liberalism Rule #1.


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Laws are for losers

Author: Chris94 (37645 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:58 pm on Oct 7, 2025
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You mean like immigration law?

Author: iairishcheeks (28650 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:31 am on Oct 8, 2025
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The irony shoots over his head.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61955 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:36 am on Oct 8, 2025
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Irony, hypocrisy, etc, are all bundled under the label Waddabout

Author: Iggle (12941 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 8:51 am on Oct 8, 2025
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So he doesn't have to do any introspective thinking. It's a defense mechanism. We could probably get the full diagnosis from Curly.

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Chris doesn't care about immigration because it doesn't affect him personally.

Author: iairishcheeks (28650 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:42 pm on Oct 8, 2025
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It doesn't stop him from commenting on it, but It's a "literal" non-issue.

But what about the other things Chris whines about that don't affect him personally, it's totally different.


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The current immigration law created the current immigration mess.

Author: Quest4twelve (7361 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 7:13 am on Oct 8, 2025
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No, Biden created the current immigration mess.

Author: iairishcheeks (28650 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:47 am on Oct 8, 2025
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Baron is way over his skis on this issue (never mind all the others)...the legality of what Trump is

Author: TyroneIrish (22492 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:56 pm on Oct 7, 2025
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doing has not been affirmed...typical of his "Shoot First and Ask Questions Later" approach to governing in a Constitutional Democracy. That doesn't seem to bother Baron one iota.

Link: https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/national-guard-chicago-portland-trump-10-07-25

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Along with Democrats opposing the deployment of NG troops in Dem cities, 70% of Independents do also

Author: TyroneIrish (22492 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:50 pm on Oct 7, 2025
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thus forming a 61% MAJORITY opinion in this country...not sure what country you're referring to with your post.

Link: https://www.unilad.com/news/us-news/donald-trump-national-guard-americans-poll-609289-20251005

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You lumping in all Dems/libs in with the violent wackos is comical.

Author: Domer From Hell (17221 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:08 pm on Oct 7, 2025
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We're all born bald baby!
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No, I don’t consider you in that group nor some others

Author: BaronVonZemo (61955 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:20 pm on Oct 7, 2025
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In fact, I’d bet that you agree with me though only you can say if I’d win the bet.

The radical Left is the problem.
Also, the radical Left is in control of the Dem party - and that is the problem.


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All radicals are the problem.

Author: Domer From Hell (17221 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:22 pm on Oct 7, 2025
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We're all born bald baby!
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The accusations of fascism are calls for violence. And, they work.

Author: NedoftheHill (45454 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:45 pm on Oct 7, 2025
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It is one thing for there to be a lone radical, a mentally ill person. Certainly those will exist on both sides.

But, it is entirely another thing for a political party's leaders (e.g., members of Congress, academia, and the like...members of the Democrat Party) to constantly reach out to those radicals via CNN and the Internet, to try to motivate those radicals to act for the cause, to initiate violence, to assassinate the other side.

We all know you can't vote yourself out of actual fascism, you have to shoot your way out of that. So, accusations of actual fascism are calls to violence.

Maybe the leaders of the Left think such violence is necessary at this point...maybe they believe that they are truly saving the country from actual fascism. But, we don't have to sit here and pretend to believe them when they innocently wonder aloud why anyone would think that violence was justified to oppose fascism. Don't play the fool. Recognize what is happening, and either condone it or condemn it, or remain silent. Don't lie.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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You’re seeing shit I’m not seeing…

Author: Domer From Hell (17221 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:21 am on Oct 8, 2025
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I haven't noticed any “leader” call for violence. You fools interpret opposing views as violent acts mainly because MAGA dolts are generally brainless douche bags.

We're all born bald baby!
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Newsome passed Cali law so fed agents trying to enforce law can be recognized and doxed by gangs

Author: BaronVonZemo (61955 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:01 am on Oct 8, 2025
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His actions and statements have been an obvious call to violence.

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And there’s no difference in the California bill and Senate Bill 805 which went into effect in Sept

Author: Domer From Hell (17221 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:24 am on Oct 8, 2025
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We're all born bald baby!
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Nope. The bill does not require the ICE agents to reveal personal info…

Author: Domer From Hell (17221 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:18 am on Oct 8, 2025
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but it does require them to identify themselves as law enforcement. The masks allowed them to have a “secret police” status and they weren’t required to identify themselves as law enforcement. Seeing their faces doesn’t dox them. That’s MAGA bullshit.

We're all born bald baby!
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No dummy. The masks prevented them from being recognized & doxed.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61955 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:53 am on Oct 9, 2025
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Ridiculous. Seeing a fade doesn’t divulge shit. You probably think the illegals have..:

Author: Domer From Hell (17221 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:08 pm on Oct 9, 2025
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some kind of facial recognition capabilities. I’m sure Trump does

We're all born bald baby!
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All you have to do is watch the news. Regardless, people here are calling for violence that way.

Author: NedoftheHill (45454 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 1:00 am on Oct 8, 2025
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I don't mind if people disagree with me. Views aren't threatening to me at all.

I'm just saying that if they exhort others to violence, which they have been doing quite successfully, then it is fair for me to oppose them politically.

The same standard should apply to posters here: They are calling upon the mentally ill radicals to initiate violence by repeatedly using words like fascist. Gone are the days of mere hyperbole. People actually believe them, and they know that people believe them if they are watching the news.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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In this case, it’s the radical Left. I assume you are not of their ilk?

Author: BaronVonZemo (61955 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:23 pm on Oct 7, 2025
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I don’t subscribe to political violence. I do, however, love hearing of Russian and

Author: Domer From Hell (17221 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:29 pm on Oct 7, 2025
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Palestinian kills. In fact, I celebrate them in the name of Eddie Gallagher, who happens to be a war hero and exonerated Navy SEAL.

We're all born bald baby!
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Good. Cuz NG is only acting against violent protestors & violent gangs/criminals attacking officers/

Author: BaronVonZemo (61955 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:15 pm on Oct 7, 2025
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agents who are trying to do their job and enforce the law.

I’m glad we agree.


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Baron 2015 would be horrified at Baron 2025

Author: Chris94 (37645 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:36 pm on Oct 7, 2025
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Nonsense. I put in the pain for the gains, and I never skip leg day.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61955 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:47 pm on Oct 7, 2025
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Has any Dem called out antifa & the problems they are causing in Portland or Chicago?

Author: ELP (10483 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 10:39 pm on Oct 7, 2025
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Instead, Dems are so incredibly afraid of the Marxist left that they all start sounding like Illinois Gov Jelly Belly or Chicago Mayor BLM Brandon Johnson or the Portland mayor and the Portland PD Chief, whoever they hell those two dopes are. Hell, the Dems are still backing the Virginia candidate after his threats of death to another candidate and his family. So, these local, state, and DC elite Dems may not be the ones throwing the bricks but they sure are not trying to stop it. Especially these Dem activist Judges.

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Not a one. 2015 Chris would claim, “That would never happen”. Now, he condones it quietly & objects

Author: BaronVonZemo (61955 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:47 pm on Oct 7, 2025
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to enforcing the rule of law to protect citizens there.

He even tolerated the declaration of a sovereign nation of Chaz.

2015 Chris would be horrified at 2025 Chris.


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Illegal Mexican Latin King gang member, Juan Martinez, placed a 10k bounty on Border Chief.

Author: ELP (10483 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 10:38 am on Oct 8, 2025
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Not one single syllable from the Democrats. Neither "moderate" or way left of left, has condemned this. Not Illinois Gov Jelly Belly or Chicago Mayor BLM Brandon Johnson. No one from the Dem leadership, Chicago "priest" Michael Pfleger, or Cardinal Blase Cupich have gone public to condemn this. In fact, no one from the burning ashes of the Illinois State Republican party voiced condemnations. My own bishop, Robert McClory, had everything to say about George Floyd, the treatment of illegals, and the existence of Alligator Alcatraz but has nothing to say about this bounty.

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