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Of course the Trump IRS is going after political opponents

Author: Chris94 (37476 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:08 am on Oct 16, 2025
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And before anyone whatabouts this, remember: the claims that Obama’s IRS did this have been thoroughly, repeatedly debunked.

Not that such things matter inside the MAGA bubble.


Link: https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-irs-investigations-left-leaning-groups-democratic-donors-612a095e

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Thread Level: 2

Your lack of self awareness is remarkable

Author: Nigel Tufnel (8131 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:38 pm on Oct 16, 2025
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'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
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Debunked?! Such ignorance! By Democrats and their media only.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61651 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:15 am on Oct 16, 2025
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I know you can read "doc" it was debunked. Tell us how it wasn't?

Author: Quest4twelve (7297 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 11:33 am on Oct 16, 2025
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Show us it was. I'm interested.

Author: NedoftheHill (45230 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:42 am on Oct 16, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Inspectors General are such pains in the butt, eh?

Author: Chris94 (37476 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:09 pm on Oct 16, 2025
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They often come up with findings that don't match what Sean Hannity had been assuring us were true.

That's why Trump fired them all.


Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/us/politics/irs-targeting-tea-party-liberals-democrats.html

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IG's as unbiased as the FBI? I hope not. They need to be much better than that.

Author: NedoftheHill (45230 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:11 pm on Oct 16, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Here's a summary of what the 2017 Inspector General's Report had to say on this issue...

Author: TyroneIrish (22107 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:06 pm on Oct 16, 2025
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Second Inspector General's report
In late September 2017, an exhaustive report by the Treasury Department's inspector general found that from 2004 to 2013, the IRS used both conservative and liberal keywords to choose targets for further scrutiny, blunting claims that the issue had been an Obama-era partisan scandal.[1][2] The 115-page report confirmed the findings of the prior 2013 report that some conservative organizations had been unfairly targeted, but also found that the pattern of misconduct had been ongoing since 2004 and was non-partisan in nature.

In reaction, Democratic Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Finance Committee, stated "After years of baseless claims and false accusations it is my hope Republicans will finally put an end to this witch hunt and admit that their attacks on the I.R.S. were nothing but political grandstanding on behalf of special interests at the expense of American taxpayers." In contrast, the Republican chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, Kevin Brady of Texas, responded by saying that "this report reinforces what government watchdogs and congressional investigators have confirmed time and time again: Bureaucrats at the I.R.S., such as Lois Lerner, arbitrarily and haphazardly administered the tax code and targeted taxpayers based on political ideology."[1] Regardless of reaction, the release of the report brought to an end the last formal governmental investigation into the IRS practice.


Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRS_targeting_controversy

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The claim was the IRS under Obama targeted his political opponents. From NPR:

Author: Quest4twelve (7297 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 11:59 am on Oct 16, 2025
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The controversy began in 2013 when an IRS official admitted the agency had been aggressively scrutinizing groups with names such as "Tea Party" and "Patriots." It later emerged that liberal groups had been targeted, too, although in smaller numbers.

The fact is conservative groups are not an incumbent president's opponent. Now if you said Mitt Romney, etc then you have a point. But it was both sides that were scrutinized more.


Link: https://www.npr.org/2017/10/27/560308997/irs-apologizes-for-aggressive-scrutiny-of-conservative-groups

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One man's debunked is another's black letter law.

Author: Curly1918 (16972 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:54 am on Oct 16, 2025
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Anyone who believes any political myths is purposely delusional.

Personally, I don't care about political kabuki. I just care about the impact of policies.


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This is exactly why the left keeps losing.

Author: PaND (2987 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 10:00 am on Oct 16, 2025
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They are only interested in the theatre, see the government shutdown as a prime example. Republicans only care about policy impact.

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Yeh... and they conveniently forgot about Lois Lerner

Author: Curly1918 (16972 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 12:40 pm on Oct 16, 2025
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Link: https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=lois+lerner+scandal&mid=4511B48A12739D45A5D94511B48A12739D45A5D9&FORM=VIRE

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This is wrong, but also not new.

Author: iairishcheeks (28489 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:53 am on Oct 16, 2025
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Link: http://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/new-report-details-alarming-irs-civil-liberties-abuses#:~:text=Investigation%20by%20the%20Judiciary%20Committee,trust%20among%20the%20American%20public.

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It's very telling that when presented evidence that refutes their claims there is no rebuttal.

Author: PaND (2987 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 10:11 am on Oct 16, 2025
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Low IQ people as Trump would say (correctly).

Author: BaronVonZemo (61651 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:38 am on Oct 16, 2025
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If nothing else,DOGE proved there’s a shit ton of corruption on the left.

Author: LanceManion (8782 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 9:27 am on Oct 16, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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The crack reporting from the WSJ has to be believed "according to people familiar with the matter."

Author: PaND (2987 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 9:55 am on Oct 16, 2025
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What great sourcing, irrefutable.

"The Trump administration is preparing sweeping changes at the Internal Revenue Service that would allow the agency to pursue criminal inquiries of left-leaning groups more easily, according to people familiar with the matter.
A senior IRS official involved in the effort has drawn up a list of potential targets that includes major Democratic donors, some of the people said."


Link: Bunk

Thread Level: 4

Incredible reporting. Indisputable fact finding.

Author: Hensou (9295 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 10:49 am on Oct 16, 2025
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The sources were familiar with the matter.
End of discussion.


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Author: Hensou (9295 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 11:07 am on Oct 16, 2025
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DOGE did not target corruption. Nice try, though.

Author: Chris94 (37476 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:49 am on Oct 16, 2025
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