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My two favorite words: Not Guilty

Author: conorlarkin (21768 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:56 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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Link: https://www.npr.org/2025/11/06/nx-s1-5600772/trump-justice-federal-surge-subway-sandwich

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris

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The Gestapo filed charges over lunch meat? Weak.

Author: ND521 (9670 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 9:45 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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You misspelled "jury nullification."

Author: NedoftheHill (45412 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 7:53 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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He was obviously guilty. The jury just decided to nullify the application of the law in this case, as is their right. Do you support jury nullification?

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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So quick on the uptake Ned. Nothing gets past you.

Author: conorlarkin (21768 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:01 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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Per my reply below to Emerson Lake & Palmer, a jury is the final check ‘n balance that protects one’s liberty from Government overreaching.

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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You support jury nullification, but don't want to say so?

Author: NedoftheHill (45412 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:23 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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I guess, given your line of work, I get why you might want to keep that a secret. Well, your secret is safe with me. Jury nullification is a good thing, not a bad thing, like pardons. Can it be abused (like pardons)?...of course, like anything else, it can be abused. But, the question is this: Is it better to have it than not have it.

But, when you pretend that "not guilty" always means "not guilty," you are just trolling or gaslighting. At least be honest. You support this particular assault, and you are happy they guy got away with it, even though he is very guilty.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Of course I support the province of a jury to nullify. Welcome to America!

Author: conorlarkin (21768 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:47 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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This case was overcharged as an assault. It was a disorderly conduct at best.

So the verdict wasn’t really a nullification.

Either way, the jury’s message is that this prosecution was nonsense from the jump.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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It was on video. It was assault/battery according to the letter of the law in most jurisdictions

Author: NedoftheHill (45412 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:09 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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...of a law enforcement officer, no less...which usually increases the charge, not reduces it. If taking a cafeteria tray out of someone's hand is assault (you know the case), then throwing the contents of that tray on someone is a step worse.

When it comes to Leftists, they are "overcharged," but when it comes to the Right, "no one is above the law." That viewpoint is Stalinist: not enforcing the law fairly & impartially, but rather selecting the man, and then picking the crime you want.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Assault and battery. Good lord.

Author: Chris94 (37617 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:10 am on Nov 7, 2025
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If the cop were a real man, he would have laughed it off.

But go ahead and fire up the persecution complex.

It was assault!


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Would you feel differently if it had been a grinder?

Author: LanceManion (8946 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 7:01 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Mine is Justice. Less myopic.

Author: Hensou (9509 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 5:04 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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And the jury has spoken. They heard the case. You did not.

Author: conorlarkin (21768 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:07 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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We all saw the video. A picture is worth a thousand words. DC jury. Yet another shocker.

Author: ELP (10430 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 6:29 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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How about the offender blowing a soap bubble that “Strikes” the ICE Officer?…you embarrass yourself

Author: TyroneIrish (22371 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:42 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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with regularity.

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You don't know the law.

Author: NedoftheHill (45412 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:14 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Should the guy have done jail time for lobbing a sub at the ICE dude?

Author: Domer From Hell (17189 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:22 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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We're all born bald baby!
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The ICE dude is a Federal agent. Not a shopping mall security guard.

Author: ELP (10430 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 9:09 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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What do you think would happen if you tried that trick on your local county PD? You think he would buy you candy and flowers? It doesn't matter if it's a brick, spit, or a Subway, it's assault of a Federal officer. What would you do if this coward threw it at you? TDS has literally destroyed the moral compass of the anti-Trumpers. If this twit threw a sandwich at a Capitol police officer on J6, I guarantee he would have been jailed.

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And much worse than throwing subs was happening on January 6th

Author: Domer From Hell (17189 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:15 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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and you know it. You really should work on your Trump psychosis. You people truly are blind.

We're all born bald baby!
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I’m not saying it was the right thing to do, nor would I stoop to such a level…

Author: Domer From Hell (17189 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:12 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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I want to know if you think lobbing a sub at the ICE dude warrants jail time.

We're all born bald baby!
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IDK. I don't even think of that guy. Send him to Parchman Farm for all I care.

Author: ELP (10430 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 10:06 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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Send him to Disneyland. Give him an award. Make him spend an hour talking with Big Mike. I do agree J6 was much worse than throwing a Sub at a federal agent when you consider an unarmed female was murdered in cold blood by an officer who already had a dubious reputation. So we agree on that. Anyway, this discussion has reached its limit. You can have the last word.

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We keep forgetting that NYC and DC prosecutions should be heard in North Dakota.

Author: conorlarkin (21768 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:58 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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Trial by jury is a fundamental right. The jury is the ultimate check’n balance to protect an individual’s liberty from the power of the State.

In this instance, a unanimous jury was not convinced the Government met its demanding burden of proof.

Yield.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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You assume innocence for a living. I have the greater valor of objectivity

Author: Hensou (9509 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 5:35 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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Yes, you are nothing if not objective.

Author: Chris94 (37617 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:55 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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I don't know how the evidence against the guy could not be greater. What a world the

Author: THEISMANCARR (17506 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 6:09 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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liberals are trying to make.

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The DC jury was convinced he was a 6 foot hero…

Author: TakethetrainKnute (34169 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:04 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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Yes he was totally guilty…of throwing a sandwich. Put him away!

Author: Chris94 (37617 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:58 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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Some punishment is justified, why do think I would say put him away. I say let him do community

Author: THEISMANCARR (17506 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 12:10 am on Nov 7, 2025
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service by going with ICE for a week to see what they go through.

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Way to minimize a submarine attack…

Author: TakethetrainKnute (34169 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:03 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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If I made the same remark the post would be erased.

Author: Hensou (9509 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 6:01 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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Pure irrelevant snark, prof. Illogical as well.

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And rightly so, you’re a prick

Author: Domer From Hell (17189 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:53 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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We're all born bald baby!
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Using your words. And we all admire your objective valor.

Author: Chris94 (37617 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:59 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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Or valorous objectivity.

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Snark is snark prof.

Author: Hensou (9509 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 7:07 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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And you need Admin’s protection. Everyone knows this.

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Author: Hensou (9509 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 6:01 pm on Nov 6, 2025
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