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At some point, we will have to stop our petty squabbles, and focus on important things.

Author: NedoftheHill (45454 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:47 pm on Nov 11, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.

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Read Alex Karp’s ‘The Technological Republic’

Author: Nigel Tufnel (8178 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:45 am on Nov 12, 2025
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'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
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Looks interesting...and on point.

Author: NedoftheHill (45454 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 12:20 pm on Nov 12, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Palmer Luckey was on Rogan a few weeks ago, he’s anti-woke

Author: holybull101 (10628 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:33 am on Nov 12, 2025
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All the woke BS has put us 10 years+ behind technologically.

Author: LanceManion (9012 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 7:39 am on Nov 12, 2025
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Excellence and selection based on characteristics are mutually exclusive. Fortunately, woke and DEI are being exterminated before they completely invaded math and the sciences.

Think about it, when was the last time you were impressed by a technological or engineering marvel in the USA?


Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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I respectfully disagree. Out engineering and technology lags no one!

Author: Curly1918 (17065 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:10 am on Nov 12, 2025
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I feel DEI and Wokeism was mere distractions for political theater.

They might have an impact on the lower end of our intellectual talent but NONE on the top side.


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Not true. Wokeism has/had a meaningful impact on practical engineering. Look no further than GM

Author: LanceManion (9012 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 10:11 am on Nov 12, 2025
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who installed women as chief engineer on a number of programs that were stalwarts of the company, and now those products are rubbish.

That's not to mention the harm that HR and to some extent legal, which are now largely female and woke, have done to companies, forcing evaluation and hiring of unqualified people in roles that actually matter.

I'll also point you to the ND engineering department, wherein around 40% of majors are female. That looks great on the stats, but as a practical matter, women have a far higher attrition rate from the profession than men.


Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Good Grief...you are just oozing Misogyny...did some lady beat you out for a promotion? As someone

Author: TyroneIrish (22492 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:45 pm on Nov 12, 2025
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who has spent his entire career in technology, I've seen plenty of women do their part to advance the field...and others get held back due to the "Good 'Ole Boy" network.

We need as much talented Human Capital as we can find...regardless of Race, Gender or Religion...you're not helping.

Here's a short list of women who have made their mark in STEM (see link)...

btw, there's a long list of Failures by Men, if you care to do some introspection.


Link: https://www.sciencebuddies.org/blog/women-in-science-history

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i imagine for entry level types such as yourself, you don't see the harm that quota hiring does.

Author: LanceManion (9012 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 3:51 pm on Nov 12, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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What I'm seeing is the harm in not opening opportunities to talented individuals simply due to

Author: TyroneIrish (22492 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:29 pm on Nov 12, 2025
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their race, gender or religion.

Given Notre Dame's commitment to DEI, I'm wondering why you spend any time at all on this website...must be hard to justify...yet here you are.


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i agree. It's time we saw more reverse discrimination suits by white males.

Author: LanceManion (9012 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 4:53 pm on Nov 12, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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You made that up

Author: Chris94 (37645 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:53 am on Nov 12, 2025
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Probably sounds plausible inside the Trump bubble.

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Says the guy who literally has zero real world experience. Nerd!

Author: LanceManion (9012 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 8:36 am on Nov 12, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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“Real world” is only the private sector, I guess

Author: Chris94 (37645 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:26 am on Nov 12, 2025
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I work in a fake world of leprechauns and rainbows.

Everyone in that real world can judge the effect of wokeness on technological change. Obviously.


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Academia has its place, but you are so far removed from a viable product or a P&L

Author: LanceManion (9012 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 10:04 am on Nov 12, 2025
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you really aren't in a position to comment on either of those things let alone the state of practical engineering in the United States.

The USA has driven our brightest minds into pharmacy, Wall Street and ephemeral rather than practical engineering such that we need to import engineers and engineering students. That's a failing in three regards: 1, what we now worship as a country, 2. our lower education system and particularly in regard to the 3Rs, and 3. a decade + of forcing people who are not qualified but tick a box into important positions in companies and the government.


Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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I am not claiming to be some sort of expert

Author: Chris94 (37645 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:36 am on Nov 12, 2025
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I'm only stating the obvious: You made up the 10% number, which is based on your hideously biased guesses.

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You mean 10 years? Ok. So you generally agree with the point, it's the degree of deficiency

Author: LanceManion (9012 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 10:51 am on Nov 12, 2025
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that you disagree with. Got it.

Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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I will trust the people who actually try to measure such things....

Author: Chris94 (37645 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:14 am on Nov 12, 2025
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...rather than the partisans who go with their biased gut.

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Your call. In the olden days, before college became a profit center, there was a partnership

Author: LanceManion (9012 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 11:24 am on Nov 12, 2025
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between the government, industry and colleges and universities to assure the colleges/universities were producing the right mix of graduates as needed by the economy.

Then someone figured out you could charge the same for a liberal studies degree and an engineering degree, and the consumers would pay the same for each degree.


Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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In the Olden Days (e.g. Middle Ages)..."Liberal Arts" were at the center of University Curricula...

Author: TyroneIrish (22492 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:03 pm on Nov 12, 2025
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and the Wealthiest, Most Successful people sought out such graduates as the epitome of what it meant to be Human in all fields. It could be argued that an over emphasis on STEM is diminishing our advancement as Human Beings.

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And then they made the BS/BA the equivalent of a high school diploma

Author: LanceManion (9012 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 3:51 pm on Nov 12, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Are you accusing Notre Dame Arts and Letters Grads of wasting their, or their parents', money?

Author: TyroneIrish (22492 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:41 pm on Nov 12, 2025
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...seems to me, all those BS/BA degrees are being well utilized...more so than their H.S. diplomas alone.

I'm getting the impression you could benefit from a consultation with one of those BS/BA grads who went into Psychology...in other words...you've got "Issues"...


Link: https://al.nd.edu/careers/alumni-outcomes/

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Yes to both points.

Author: LanceManion (9012 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 4:53 pm on Nov 12, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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The results in the link prove otherwise.

Author: TyroneIrish (22492 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:32 pm on Nov 12, 2025
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Budget cuts made them let the unicorns go?

Author: TakethetrainKnute (34219 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:38 am on Nov 12, 2025
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Can't get more "real world" than that...

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So humans will no longer be “necessary.”

Author: Curly1918 (17065 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 4:35 am on Nov 12, 2025
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Or… is AI on its way to becoming a god?

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Silicon based species...using us carbon-based life forms as the mere stepping stones...

Author: TakethetrainKnute (34219 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:15 am on Nov 12, 2025
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Then vote Democrat, Ned.

Author: conorlarkin (21815 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:53 pm on Nov 11, 2025
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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No squabbles in the Democratic Party, eh?

Author: Hensou (9595 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 9:27 am on Nov 12, 2025
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Then what in the wide world of sports just happened with the shutdown?

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