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This is a reason I don't trust Zelensky (and yes, Putin is much worse).

Author: BaronVonZemo (61979 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:26 pm on Nov 15, 2025
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He is knee deep in corruption.

Link: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-administration-stays-silent-massive-ukraine-corruption-scandal-rocks-zelenskys-inner-circle

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mo doubt money is flowing back to congress, as well

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16542 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:12 am on Nov 16, 2025
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Proof? That’s what I thought

Author: Domer From Hell (17270 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:27 pm on Nov 16, 2025
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Tell us who you think is not corrupt. I mean that's what politics is all about!

Author: Curly1918 (17085 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 8:34 am on Nov 16, 2025
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By comparison Putin is willing to kill a million+ (even his own!) as part of his fantasy of being a Soviet czar.

He is way beyond being the worst of two evils.

If he were to succeed we'd be facing another world war.


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So let’s give 193B with no oversight to a corrupt guy, because it’s all or none w nothing in between

Author: BaronVonZemo (61979 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:46 am on Nov 16, 2025
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eh?

Very tight oversight. Something Dems refused to do when money started flowing to Ukraine and they were in charge.
Watch to see if the war has become a business that they want to prolong.

Watch for our own US money being put back into the pockets of American politicians to keep it flowing.

Place tight guard rails.

Whenever someone opposes guard raises like the Dems did, it usually means they plan to go outside of them.


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Baron...when it comes to 'Oversight', where were you when DJT fired all those Inspectors General?..

Author: TyroneIrish (22558 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:29 pm on Nov 16, 2025
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now the Barn Door is open to one of the most prolific Grifters in American History...the guy who cheated adoring students at his Faux University...or donors to his 'Charitable' Foundation...the list goes on...and on...

Link: https://americanoversight.org/investigation/trumps-illegal-firing-of-inspectors-general/

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If you truly believe in oversight to guard against corruption, start with Trump.

Author: conorlarkin (21847 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:10 am on Nov 16, 2025
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Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/15/world/middleeast/trump-organization-saudi-development-deal.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

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Didn’t the “ring leader” leave the country?…

Author: Domer From Hell (17270 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:11 pm on Nov 15, 2025
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And doesn’t the Ukraine, under Zelensky’s direction have safeguards in place to root out corruption? At least that’s what I gathered from the Fox News article.

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For years, he had to be part of it. We’ve been giving him 193B w no oversight thnx to D’s.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61979 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:43 am on Nov 16, 2025
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His clean up measures come only after spotlight from US.

He is not a good guy. He is not Putin, but we need to understand what he is, and we need to account for everything.

We also have to consider that continuing the war may be in in his personal best interest - that is not a definite thing, but it needs to be so thing our entire govt needs to be made aware…


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“He had to be part of it.” Yeah, I’ll take your word for it…

Author: Domer From Hell (17270 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:23 am on Nov 16, 2025
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He isn’t perfect, but he’s the guy the Ukraine needs to lead them through the war.

And I agree with him that elections can’t be done fairly while the war is on. Too much of a chance that a “Putin Puppet” would get elected.


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No surprise that the FOX article never uses the words "Quid Pro Quo" in its article, nor does it

Author: TyroneIrish (22558 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:40 pm on Nov 15, 2025
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say anything about Trump's former Campaign Manager, Paul Manafort...who used to provide "consulting services" to pro-Russian, and Grossly Corrupt, Ukraine President, Viktor Yanukovych, along with handing over 2016 campaign internal polling data to a true Russian agent, Konstantin Kilimnik. It also doesn't mention that Volodymyr Zelensky was responsible for getting rid of Yanukovych's corruption.

Seems as though FOX is still spewing out content that only Trump and his MAGAs would take at face value...i.e. the only ones who keep their Stock Price from sinking.


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