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It's about to be over in Ukraine, thank God.

Author: MAS (22008 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:49 am on Nov 23, 2025
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Link: https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/23/europe/zelensky-ukraine-europe-trump-plan-intl

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Thread Level: 2

The deal has its good points and bad points…

Author: Domer From Hell (17291 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:01 pm on Nov 23, 2025
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I like the use of frozen Russian cash used to rebuild the Ukraine. The security “guarantee” is lacking as no peace keeping troops will be allowed in the Ukraine. After reading the plan, the parts of Donbas that are still under Ukrainian control will be used as a “buffer zone. Not sure if Zelensky and NATO will get behind that. I don’t mind the reduction of the Ukrainian military. I wouldn’t want to face ‘em again, either if I was a Russian savage.

I don’t like Russia benefiting from this savagery, but it seems both sides are going to have to cave to a certain extreme. We shall see if this deal is accepted.


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We're all born bald baby!
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EU response to U.S. proposed Peace Agreement…

Author: TyroneIrish (22635 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:51 pm on Nov 23, 2025
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Link: https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/full-text-european-counter-proposal-us-ukraine-peace-plan-2025-11-23/

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Thank you President Biden for your leadership in aiding Ukraine and Europe at a critical time.

Author: conorlarkin (21882 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:18 pm on Nov 23, 2025
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Ukraine demonstrated great courage and tenacity. But, they desperately needed help to sustain a meaningful defense of their sovereign over the long grind of war.

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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100% true.

Author: Domer From Hell (17291 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:27 pm on Nov 23, 2025
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We're all born bald baby!
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You mean the total surrender to Putin agreed to by POTUS and Putin bootlicking republicans?

Author: jimbasil (53643 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 1:11 pm on Nov 23, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Yes, that's why Ukraine has lost...Trump. Of course! Well reasoned, Chickenhawk!

Author: MAS (22008 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:31 pm on Nov 23, 2025
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You mean, Ukraine was invaded and the peace deal by the US was authored by the Russians? Rubio

Author: jimbasil (53643 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 1:40 pm on Nov 23, 2025
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and POTUS just translated it into English and said this was a peace deal, MR. chickenhawk.
This deal gives Russia the Eastern Ukraine and disarms the Ukrainians and leaves open the opportunity for Putin
to take the rest of Ukraine when desired exposing Eastern Europe to Russian advancements.


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Another question I have…

Author: Domer From Hell (17291 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:04 pm on Nov 23, 2025
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How fair and free would the “elections” be? Putin is a master manipulator…what would keep him from inserting a Russian puppet?

We're all born bald baby!
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"The 28 point plan hammered out by U.S. and Russian envoys..." Ukraine unlikely to put its head in

Author: TyroneIrish (22635 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:41 am on Nov 23, 2025
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that noose.

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A cautionary tale. Never voluntarily give up your weapons, whether handguns or nukes.

Author: LanceManion (9090 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 10:04 am on Nov 23, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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