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Tell me if this financially would work for government run health care

Author: MarkHarman (7611 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:18 pm on Dec 15, 2025
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I have a problem with the concept of "free" health care for all Americans because a lot of people can indeed afford it. But I also recognize a lot of people can't, so I played around with some numbers and came up with the following simple plan:

Divide your family income by 50,000 and that's the percentage of your yearly deductible. Obviously anyone making $50,000 or less would have free health care. Other figures:

$100,000/50,000 = 2% = $2,000
$500,000/50,000 = 10% = $50,000
$1,000,000/50,000 = 20% = $200,000

You could also have private health insurance to lower the costs if you think your deductibles are too high.


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Thread Level: 2

The only way government provided healthcare works is to limit the amount of care.

Author: Shadow_of_the_Dome (4751 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:17 am on Dec 16, 2025
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Thread Level: 3

Better to have For-Profit HC keep out millions with pre-existing conditions...cancellation of

Author: TyroneIrish (22872 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:57 am on Dec 16, 2025
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policies when people get 'too sick'...Lifetime and Annual Limits on coverage...charging women more than men for the same coverage...lack of coverage for essential HC benefits like Emergency Services, Hospitalization, Prescription Drugs, Mental Health and Preventative Care?...and more, while costing Double per person vs any other developed nation?

Note: the ACA remedied all that while making it affordable for 46M Americans who previously had No HC at all...and that's just the first step toward HC for all...at Much lower prices.

btw, have you seen a HC Plan...of any kind...from the GOP in the last decade or so?


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The ACA sought to solve the problems of a tiny minority at the expense of EVERYONE.

Author: Curly1918 (17225 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:12 am on Dec 16, 2025
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If the government has a role here it should focus ONLY on assisting those really in need.

I have no problem with a program to provide health care for those who cannot obtain insurance.

I also support every effort to make insurance more competitive.... perhaps by allowing consumers to purchase across state lines.


Thread Level: 5

Purchasing across state lines has been a buzz word lately.

Author: PaND (3087 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 10:20 am on Dec 16, 2025
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I just don't know if it would get the net result of lowering costs. I know in PA the state manages risk pools to stabilize premiums.
Allowing cross-state sales could allow healthier people leave one state’s pool for cheaper plans elsewhere.


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Health care premiums skyrocketed after the uACA was passed

Author: MarkHarman (7611 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:13 am on Dec 16, 2025
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In my sister in laws's case, her premiums and deductible tripled...and my wife and I realized the only plan we could barely afford at the time, Bronze, was utter garbage with an $18,000 deductible.

Thread Level: 5

Doctors retired, joined large corporations, or went concierge.

Author: NedoftheHill (45687 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 2:28 am on Dec 16, 2025
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Suddenly, wait times for appointments increased (except for concierge), Funny to see everyone wonder how that happened, when the Left was intentionally trying to move us closer to systems in which wait times are notorious, and they want to take us further in that direction.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 2

You'd have to fix the tax system first, assuming you're going off of AGI.

Author: iairishcheeks (28843 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:44 pm on Dec 15, 2025
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Because our system is largely based on tax avoidance, which would be compounded by your proposal.

At the link: a basic summary of how it works.


Link: https://youtube.com/shorts/Ybjk5DygpJo?si=307UVkLAsN7vtiBx

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Thread Level: 2

It’s never free but thanks for the broad brush statement.

Author: jimbasil (53720 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 6:29 pm on Dec 15, 2025
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