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Iranian regime on the brink thanks to Trump. World safety & possible path to democracy awaits

Author: BaronVonZemo (62129 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:27 am on Dec 19, 2025
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I reject the idea that we must tolerate this regime’s type of brutality to achieve stability.

Weak FP such as JCPOA only enabled the theocratic tyrants.

Thank you Donald Trump for your simple, decisive action. The erudites on the Left are left speechless as there appeasement approach is proven wrong once again.


Link: https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/mike-pompeo-islamic-republic-ropes-time-trump-iranians-finish-job

Replies to: Iranian regime on the brink thanks to Trump. World safety & possible path to democracy awaits


Thread Level: 2

Fact check: Trump had nothing to do with the water crisis in Tehran

Author: Chris94 (37835 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:55 am on Dec 19, 2025
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It was decades of mismanagement by a miserable regime.

This message has been edited 1 time(s).

Thread Level: 3

Yeah, Trump had nothing to do with Irans folding. Liberalism Rule #14

Author: BaronVonZemo (62129 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:55 am on Dec 19, 2025
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“You’ll have to show us a lot more than rock solid, irrefutable evidence to believe it”.

Now, to defuse your deflection as well as your concrete thinking…..
What kind of shape is the Iranian regime in (because of Donald Trump) to handle the inevitable stressors that arise?


Thread Level: 4

You might want to try to educate yourself occasionally before spewing.

Author: Chris94 (37835 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:12 am on Dec 19, 2025
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Or not. That’s not the MAGA way, I know.

The current crisis has jack shit to do with US policy, present or past.


Link: https://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2025/12/04/irans_water_woes_a_textbook_case_of_how_civilizations_end_1150567.html

Thread Level: 5

How else is Baron to 'needle' Libs if he has to stick to reality? Plus it helps him leal with his

Author: TyroneIrish (22916 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:02 pm on Dec 19, 2025
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atrocious decision making.

Thread Level: 3

Like too many Dem "investments" bailing out the mullahs was a complete waste of precious resources.

Author: Curly1918 (17241 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 10:51 am on Dec 19, 2025
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The brutal and repressive theocracy might well have fallen far sooner without our indulgence AND a lot of blood would not have been shed by their proxies in the Middle East.

Thread Level: 4

As Chris just noted, it was "Their Cash"...not ours. Don't be like Baron...have some pride.

Author: TyroneIrish (22916 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:06 pm on Dec 19, 2025
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Thread Level: 4

No US “resources” were given to Iran.

Author: Chris94 (37835 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:13 am on Dec 19, 2025
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But why bother pissing into the MAGA wind.

Thread Level: 5

The AP... another media MAGA tool.

Author: Curly1918 (17241 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 11:54 am on Dec 19, 2025
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Link: https://apnews.com/article/united-states-government-fd4113419276444eba1d2a46d5c29752

Thread Level: 6

It was Iranian assets that had been frozen since 1979.

Author: Chris94 (37835 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:57 am on Dec 19, 2025
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Maybe you want to think that I might know more about this than you do.

Thread Level: 7

No! It was a bribe pure and simple.

Author: Curly1918 (17241 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 1:16 pm on Dec 19, 2025
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All you need is to Google the question "Did Obama use frozen Iranian funds for the JCPOA deal?"..

Author: TyroneIrish (22916 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:45 pm on Dec 19, 2025
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...there are numerous sources listed...here's an excerpt from FactCheck.org...(attached)

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The nuclear agreement included China, France, Germany, Russia, the United Kingdom, the United States and the European Union, so Obama didn't carry out any part of it on his own. The deal did lift some sanctions, which lifted a freeze on Irans's assets that were held largely in foreign, not U.S., banks. And, to be clear, the money that was unfrozen belonged to Iran. It had only been made inaccessible by sanctions aimed at crippling the country's nuclear program.
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Got it?


Link: https://www.factcheck.org/2019/03/obama-didnt-give-iran-150-billion-in-cash/

Thread Level: 8

No! You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Author: Chris94 (37835 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:22 pm on Dec 19, 2025
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