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I wonder why Obama declared Maduro and Venezuela a security threat back in 2015. Democrat’s should

Author: MuskyTommy (4146 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 11:08 am on Jan 4, 2026
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rejoicing his capture.

Link: https://theweek.com/62875/why-has-obama-declared-venezuela-a-national-security-threat

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Thread Level: 2

This kind of faux outrage? Remember, Orange Man always is bad.

Author: TampaIrish (11914 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:15 pm on Jan 4, 2026
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Link: https://x.com/claytravis/status/2007815570171875457?s=61

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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Ha. Good one. I got 3 out of 5 reeled in. Just needed Q-tip and the lawyer to join.

Author: MuskyTommy (4146 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 1:39 pm on Jan 4, 2026
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Thread Level: 4

This is good too.

Author: TampaIrish (11914 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:47 pm on Jan 4, 2026
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They traded their Ukraine Flags for Palestinian ones.

Link: https://x.com/thataussiewoman/status/2007720590518693961?s=61

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
Thread Level: 5

😂

Author: MuskyTommy (4146 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 1:57 pm on Jan 4, 2026
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So you're saying trump wanted the $25 million bounty, so he invaded Venezuela! I don't know why we

Author: jimbasil (53867 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 1:32 pm on Jan 4, 2026
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didn't think of that. He is the money-grubber in chief, is he not.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 2

Don’t start this shit

Author: Chris94 (37953 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:41 pm on Jan 4, 2026
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When we invaded Iraq, Bush’s apologists came out of the woodwork and argued that - hey! - Clinton and Gore had declared that Saddam was a threat too!

Maduro was a terrible guy. He and Chavez ruined their country.

That does not make what we did wise or legal.


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I believe yesterday you said Maduro was kidnapped without warning or justification. I think

Author: MuskyTommy (4146 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 12:50 pm on Jan 4, 2026
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you might want to sit this one out. You obviously were very misinformed.

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That’s 100% true. He was a sitting head of state.

Author: Chris94 (37953 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:46 pm on Jan 4, 2026
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But I’m sure you know more than I do because you watch Fox and Google stuff.

Thread Level: 3

His bullshit isn’t about getting his facts right. For him it’s about supporting his own bad decision

Author: jimbasil (53867 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 12:49 pm on Jan 4, 2026
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All these MAGAnutties are the same. Exchange the posters name the information is the same - DJT isn’t a criminal and all he does is for America’s benefit.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 2

Everyone is in agreement on Maduro's status as a 'Bad Guy'...however, Obama never suggested that the

Author: TyroneIrish (23110 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:52 am on Jan 4, 2026
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U.S. break domestic/international laws, by seizing Venezuela's oil reserves and "Running" the country according to our needs and desires instead of allowing its citizens to elect their own leadership...e.g. the very popular Nobel Peace Prize Winner, Ms. Maria Machado...whom DJT categorically refuses to accept.

btw...from your article...Obama didn't need to resort to military action in order to import oil from Venezuela...What we're seeing right now is 'Beyond the Pale'
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Diplomatic relations between the two counties have been strained for decades, and Washington and Caracas have not held full diplomatic representation since 2008, after the late Socialist leader Hugo Chavez expelled US ambassador Patrick Duddy.

However, economic ties between the two countries remain strong, with Venezuela remaining one of top five suppliers of foreign oil to the US, according to the The Guardian.

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When the Obama Admin blew up a hospital and a wedding party from other countries was that Beyond

Author: MuskyTommy (4146 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 12:15 pm on Jan 4, 2026
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The Pale?

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Whatabout whatabout whatabout….

Author: Chris94 (37953 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:42 pm on Jan 4, 2026
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You did see with what I started the thread with right? No what about.

Author: MuskyTommy (4146 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 12:48 pm on Jan 4, 2026
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Your reference isn’t relevant…Obama never sought to seize a sovereign nation and claim ownership of

Author: TyroneIrish (23110 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:04 pm on Jan 4, 2026
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Its resources. I suspect you know it’s wrong by all laws, but just like DJT you’ll refuse to admit it…always…you are what you are a nothing cultist.

Thread Level: 7

Try some critical thinking for once you libtard.

Author: MuskyTommy (4146 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 6:57 pm on Jan 4, 2026
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You’re right, Obama was on the record as an imperialist. DJT is just finishing the job

Author: jimbasil (53867 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 12:38 pm on Jan 4, 2026
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Obama started.

My question is, how do all you MAGAjackasses speak the same asinine language throughout this country? You keep with the same dumbass narratives all day long.

Always on the attack using rhetoric you have convinced yourselves is relatable to any subject as long as it in someway supports trump and the MAGAmovement.


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 4

You keep leaving out the "Seizing of another nation's Oil Reserves" and "Running their country"...

Author: TyroneIrish (23110 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:24 pm on Jan 4, 2026
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that's what's "Beyond the Pale".

btw, Obama consulted with Congress (e.g. "Gand of Eight" from Both Parties), and sought legal counsel beforehand...Trump did neither.

Stop wasting your time...Trump engaged in an illegal 'Oil Grab' and trashed the United States' reputation around the world, thus 'legitimizing' truly Bad Actors, like Russia and China for doing the same thing.

Be a true American...Oppose Donald Trump.


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Nice excuse. You keep leaving out Venezuelans are freed from Maduro. It was nice that

Author: MuskyTommy (4146 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 12:34 pm on Jan 4, 2026
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Obama apologized for killing 42 people in the hospital.

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You're still not 'Fessing Up' to the "Beyond the Pale" nature of Trump's actions...Obama did all he

Author: TyroneIrish (23110 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:49 pm on Jan 4, 2026
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could to eliminate a threat and avoid innocent collateral damage...but never, without any counsel, did he try to take over another sovereign nation...again, that would be "Beyond the Pale"...read this post 100 times...or until you Get It ;-)...sorry, but when you fail to conduct yourself as an adult, it's hard not to treat you as a child.

Thread Level: 7

This invasion has definitely put Jack Smith's devastating deposition on the far back burner.

Author: jimbasil (53867 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 1:09 pm on Jan 4, 2026
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SCOTUS has created a monster, and his supporters are most definitely out in full support of all of his illegal actions.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 3

U.S. has had an indictment on Maduro since 2020. Good reason to go get him. Lets see what

Author: MuskyTommy (4146 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 12:10 pm on Jan 4, 2026
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happens now. You should be happy for the Venezuelan citizens. Lots of celebrating it appears.

Thread Level: 4

Venezuelans are celebrating. Democrats, Russia & China are all angry. Birds of a feather...........

Author: ELP (10860 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 4:32 pm on Jan 4, 2026
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