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Trump voters desire a greater number of sick and dead children.

Author: conorlarkin (22072 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:20 pm on Jan 5, 2026
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Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/05/health/children-vaccines-cdc-kennedy.html

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris

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Harris voters want babies dead in the womb.

Author: Hensou (10078 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 2:23 pm on Jan 5, 2026
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Harris voters...along with the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists support a Woman's

Author: TyroneIrish (23120 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 5:35 pm on Jan 5, 2026
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right to choose Abortion...

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And don't forget about all the beaten down controlled men who are married to these Harriis voters.

Author: ELP (10869 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 6:16 pm on Jan 5, 2026
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They love love love abortion too. Frees them from any responsibility of any unexpected pregnancy. Better than hustling out of Dodge like the good old days. .And, if you're an illegal, it's on us the taxpayer. It's a thriving tourist industry in states like Illinois, along with weed, assisted suicide, and gambling. Chicago Archdiocese is down with it all.

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The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists is no group of "Baby Killers", and they have

Author: TyroneIrish (23120 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 7:06 pm on Jan 5, 2026
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been steadfast for decades in support of a woman's right to choose the option of abortion. What's your response to that?

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Just in cases of rape, incest, or save the Mother's life. Remember those good old days?

Author: ELP (10869 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 7:18 pm on Jan 5, 2026
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What kind of respect should be given to anyone who supports or performs late term abortion and in some cases, post birth killing. Your organization that you hold in predictable high esteem aligns themselves with the Democratic Party and their values. It's no secret. They are a full blown abortion advocate. That's my response to your death wish for the Holy Innocents.

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Do you support abortion under any conditions?

Author: TyroneIrish (23120 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 8:24 pm on Jan 5, 2026
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Or post birth. Not my words but the words of Democrat Ralph Northam.

Author: ELP (10869 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 2:26 pm on Jan 5, 2026
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You, Jake, Ned and others need to read more before posting...the attached article is based on ACOG

Author: TyroneIrish (23120 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:14 pm on Jan 6, 2026
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definitions and frequencies of what you refer to as "Late Term Abortions"...(see linked article)

In addition, you need to factor in the reality of what was going in before Roe v Wade...and would return...should the option of abortion be denied across the country. As a reminder, here is an AI summary of that period in our history. Since at any point in time in this country there are ~6M women who had a forced or coerced pregnancy during their reproductive lives, it is a certainty that without the option of unimpeded, legal abortion services, a ban would cause many thousands of deaths and serious harm among innocent women suffering already from totally unwanted pregnancies.
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AI Overview

Before Roe v. Wade, illegal abortions were extremely common, with estimates ranging from 200,000 to 1.2 million annually in the U.S. during the 1950s and 1960s, leading to hundreds of deaths yearly, with a disproportionate impact on non-white women. While many women used dangerous self-induction methods, a significant portion of illegal abortions were performed by licensed physicians, though often in unsafe, hidden conditions, challenging the "back alley butcher" stereotype.

Frequency & Scale
High Volume: Estimates suggest millions of illegal abortions occurred in the decades leading up to Roe v. Wade.

Widespread Deaths: These procedures caused hundreds of deaths annually, with one source noting that in New York City during the early 1960s, illegal abortions caused half of all childbirth-related deaths for non-white and Puerto Rican women.

Who Performed Them?

Not Just "Butchers": Contrary to popular imagery, studies indicated that 84% to 87% of illegal abortions were performed by licensed doctors, not just unqualified individuals.
Dangerous Conditions: These medical professionals often operated in clandestine settings to avoid prosecution, making them "back alley" abortions in practice, even if the provider was licensed.

Methods

Self-Induction: Women attempted dangerous methods like falling down stairs or using instruments, often leading to severe injury or death, notes an NPR report.
Medical Professionals: Licensed physicians performed many illegal abortions, but the lack of legal recourse meant high risks for both patient and doctor.
Impact

Racial Disparity: The mortality rates from illegal abortions were significantly higher for Black and Puerto Rican women compared to white women, highlighting deep systemic inequalities, according to the Guttmacher Institute.

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Link: http://AI Overview Before Roe v. Wade, illegal abortions were extremely common, with estimates ranging from 200,000 to 1.2 million annually in the U.S. during the 1950s and 1960s, leading to hundreds of deaths yearly, with a disproportionate impact on non-white

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"The infant would be kept comfortable..."

Author: jakers (14387 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:58 pm on Jan 5, 2026
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"The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother."

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Pretty sure Chris94 made room for this possibility as well.

Author: NedoftheHill (45826 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 2:35 pm on Jan 5, 2026
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He could have been joking about extending abortion beyond the womb. He has, after all, said that he finds abortion to be hilarious.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.

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