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More observations on the Murder in Minnesota today...

Author: TyroneIrish (23144 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 8:58 pm on Jan 7, 2026
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...the video can't be avoided...the 37 yr old U.S. citizen was driving AWAY from the ICE officers...i.e. no threat to them at all, and the officer shot her multiple times in the head while he was standing right next to her by the driver's door...he was in NO DANGER and had no cause to use deadly force for his or anyone else's safety.




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Thread Level: 2

Sigh. You don’t disobey officers’ orders or try to run one over. Hard stop.

Author: LanceManion (9484 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 6:48 am on Jan 8, 2026
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Re: Sigh. You’re always on the wrong side of everything. Hard stop.

Author: jimbasil (53881 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 8:21 am on Jan 8, 2026
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 4

TDS Jones in the house.

Author: LanceManion (9484 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 8:24 am on Jan 8, 2026
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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It’s not murder. The car made contact with the officer and the bullet is through the front windshie

Author: Shadow_of_the_Dome (4777 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:26 pm on Jan 7, 2026
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Bullet was not through the side.

And as Connor states below, this will end up in Federal court.

A wrongful death civil suit maybe, but nothing criminal.


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Thread Level: 3

This does not look like a justified use of deadly force, making it a “bad shooting,”

Author: conorlarkin (22083 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:18 am on Jan 8, 2026
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This looks like a homicide. A criminal act worthy of prosecution.

It won’t be only because the case can be removed to federal court where I have no faith in Trump DOJ objectively reviewing the actions of the iCE agents.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 3

Here is a career prosecutor’s thoughts on the shooting. Homicide is what he used.

Author: jimbasil (53881 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 2:46 am on Jan 8, 2026
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Link: Not agreeing or disagreeing, just listening to his thoughts

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 3

bullet one is through the front windshield. Bullets 2 and 3 were through the side.

Author: Chris94 (38002 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:29 pm on Jan 7, 2026
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He is supposed to be a highly-trained law-enforcement officer.

He did not need to kill her.


Thread Level: 4

Here is an analysis from multiple angles

Author: Shadow_of_the_Dome (4777 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:46 pm on Jan 7, 2026
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Link: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTOnGJfEsxm/?igsh=NnE5bmZpMXc3em45

Thread Level: 2

It’s not murder. Semantics, maybe, but it’s not murder.

Author: Chris94 (38002 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:13 pm on Jan 7, 2026
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Killing. Unjustifiable use of force. Criminal negligence.

Thread Level: 3

Perhaps 2nd Degree Murder...or Manslaughter...that officer was way out of line.

Author: TyroneIrish (23144 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:39 pm on Jan 7, 2026
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Thread Level: 3

It looks like a homicide (unjustified shooting).Possibly murder. A thorough investigation is needed.

Author: conorlarkin (22083 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:28 pm on Jan 7, 2026
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It will be interesting whether the Feds will share their information: training records, employment records, radio communications, post shooting interviews, etc.

My bet is no.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Law question: would it be a federal or state issue?

Author: Chris94 (38002 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:07 pm on Jan 7, 2026
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Obvious pardon implications.

I think it is significant that these guys know Trump will pardon them for whatever they do. So, shoot first.


Thread Level: 5

Under normal circumstances, an officer can be prosecuted under state and federal law.

Author: conorlarkin (22083 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:34 pm on Jan 7, 2026
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Because the accused is a federal officer (as opposed to a Minneapolis cop), the US Department of Justice could invoke the Supremacy Clause and in effect, snatch the state case and remove to federal court.

Normally, they wouldn’t. The Feds would let the state sovereign prosecute the homicide, and the Feds would bring a separate prosecution.

However, Trump’s DOJ would likely snatch the state case away from Minnesota and then bury it.

Edit: The defendant himself has standing to remove state criminal case to federal court.


Link: https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:28%20section:1442%20edition:prelim)

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