Up to no Good.
"Good followed federal ICE agents to two other locations prior to the shooting and was blocking the roadway to interfere with ongoing enforcement in the area"
Her intentions were hostile to law enforcement.
Context is relevant.
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Irrelevant to use of deadly force; relevant to motive for murder.
Sorry to hear about the Post Gazette. Good newspaper.
"Ice Watch Warrior" with training to track, stalk and resist ICE. New video from CNN shows her
letting her wife out of the car so she could film the whole interaction with ICE and then blocking the intersection. I guess it will be used in future trainings on what not to do. I tell my kids all the time, your actions have consequences, and you have to own those consequences. She was no scared woman making a mistake.
Disagree that civil disobedience is grounds to kill folks.
Law enforcement deals with protestors all the time. They don't kill them for being non compliant or non submissive.
And yes, some of these "civil disobedience" folks are assholes and/or a pain in the ass. Effective law enforcement agencies deal with such folks everyday.
I cannot grasp this mentality.
You want to protest anything, fine. It's a free country. You have 1st Amendment Rights that protect this.
But driving your vehicle with the intention of creating a physical blockade against federal agents is asinine. Expecting that the officer "better get his butt out of the way" as you plan to drive off when being arrested for your actions is asinine.
Deciding to prioritize doing all of these things -- even if you believe you're "just" risking arrest and imprisonment -- when you have 3 children at home is beyond any realm of logical thinking. How can someone become so brainwashed that this type of activity takes precedence over the impact on your family?
check the video I just posted above. It's the officers cell phone. You can hear the wife
outside the car telling her "Drive, drive".
I think empathy / sympathy for her is appropriate.
From a legal perspective, an officer has a right and responsibility to protect himself and others. He is fortunate he didn't fall under the car, he had zero time to think through the first, second, or third shots. Her bad decision triggered all that followed, I doubt the investigation will conclude that the officer should have rethought his actions in the split second he had in the moment. Again too bad for the poor lady, but the law is the issue.
Here's a video description of Renee Good...and every video angle of the shooting shows her turning
immediately to the right, away from the ICE officer who was a few feet away from her left headlight. Had she wanted to hit him, she would have had to turn left in order to be sure she struck him...but she turned her wheels to the right before moving forward.
Her history in this video shows no history or inclination to violence...IMO no jury is ever going to buy the ICE agent's story.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AqtnPqevuNs?feature=share
Agreed. It's tragic but was totally preventable.
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She had bad intentions from the start. 3 kids w/o their Mom because of her bad choices.
And now the Democrats will use her as a mascot like they did with George Floyd .
Maybe we've made some progress???
After the George Floyd incident, I argued that we should discuss excessive use of force by police, generally, without regard to race. But, such a discussion did not help the Left. Instead, they wanted to have a discussion about racism.
Now, at least, because the woman was white, we are talking about excessive use of force by police, generally, without regard to race.
Of course, the local Dems are trying to fan the flames by making this about immigration / ICE / Trump as opposed to US law enforcement generally. I suppose the former gets Conor's slower leftist voters out to the polling places better than the latter.
The video evidence proves she backed up...turned the wheels to the right, away from the officer...
and then started to drive away, unblocking the road. No reason on earth for her to be shot and killed. Note that the last two shots occurred with the officer standing right next to her.and his arm extended almost into the vehicle...
They wanted her to unblock the road...and she was doing so...should have been a peaceful end to the story...
Yeah. She was just trying to help.
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Stick to the facts...she turned AWAY from the officer...not toward him which would have required a
LEFT turn. She was complying with the order to unblock the road.
It is Undeniable that the woman turned to the RIGHT, avoiding the officer. Hopefully there are ICE Body Cams for further evidence to be shared with the public.
Reading her mind now. Perfect
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Nothing I said had to do with her thoughts...just her actions...there was never a need for the
ICE agent to draw his gun over a traffic problem....
Sure you did. You inserted your own interpretation.
And calling this a "traffic problem" is laughable.
There's plenty to debate here. You're just pushing the angle that your handlers are telling you to.
Stop. Anyone who watches the videos knows you are misleading everyone.
She turned the wheels toward the officer, gunned the engine, and the officer drew his weapon. Then sthe turned the wheels away. Let's not pretend she didn't take the first action. I know you believe that repeating a lie will persuade people (conor's slow people, at least), and perhaps you are correct, but your behavior is dishonest.
She should not have been there at the scene at all with her car, trying to interfere with law enforcement operations. Can we agree on that?
The video evidence (see head one view attached) shows the driver back up, then immediately turn to
the right...away from the officer who shot her three times in quick succession with the last two shots showing him right next to her...Had she intended to hit him, she would have needed to turn the wheel to the LEFT.
You are one mean spirited MAGA.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8O5EjOfuSC8?feature=share
Good thing they shot her three times in the face then
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You seem to be celebrating her death. As if it proves some universal truth damning all of ICE.
I think her death is tragic. I will allow for the facts to determine if excessive force was used. You have already decided guilt. Speaks to your TDS.
You don't think "that stupid woman got all she deserved?" You said that about Ashli Babbitt.
Also, you said regarding Babbitt, "She got herself killed." Then you criticize others for saying what you said.
But, notably, there is more sympathy for Good from the Right, than there is for Babbitt from the Left.
He is an ignorant, self important jackass. He's constantly sucking up to his lib buddies
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Here you go Ned.
Don’t forget this one from the lawyer
Interesting. I'm sure he wonders why Good was only person justifiably shot at Minnesota ICE protest
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Very surprised working in the criminal justice he would say that. Some of the
violent ones could have been knocked up the side of the head for sure. Shooting 600 people is a little extreme though.
I have him on ignore. I save Mark some work that way.
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To JRay he said the mass mob was a threat and irrelevant if they were armed.
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He told me it’ was ok to shoot unarmed people because they were a national security threat.
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I got way too many suspensions for replying to him with things. Some of my favorites:
Looting is good.
Unvaccinated people should die
He would enjoy banging the wives of the unvaccinated in the hospital parking lot while they were suffering inside.
He is a peach of an individual
Nice. Thanks. He has a lot of other posts like that.
Hard to find, because he rarely put "Babbitt" in his posts. But if you can find them (and you definitely found one), they are pretty disgusting and contrary to his attitude today.
Guess we should all be admiring the amazing restraint shown by ICE in Minnesota this past week.
I like this one too. In my eyes, ICE has shown tremendous restraint with this ICE Watch
Group. They deal with them on a daily basis and it seems their patience has run out.
Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=168571
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