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House D-IL Ramirez: "Greatest threat to the Homeland is the Dept. of Homeland Security."

Author: NedoftheHill (46083 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)

Posted at 7:46 pm on Feb 3, 2026
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Above all other threats to the U.S. is DHS.

So, the question is this: Is violence justified against the greatest single threat to our nation?

Or, are we so safe that even the greatest threat against us does not warrant violence to stop that threat?


Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.

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This is the same Illinois Dem who supports gambling, weed, & abortion as state revenue.

Author: ELP (11110 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 2:48 am on Feb 4, 2026
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Homeland Security is far afield from their mission, when enacted in November 2002.

Author: conorlarkin (22241 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:44 am on Feb 4, 2026
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While signed into law on Nov. 25, 2002, DHS was established as a direct response to the September 11th terrorist attacks to reorganize, unify, and strengthen national security efforts.

Core Missions:

Prevent Terrorism: Prevent terrorist attacks within the U.S. and reduce vulnerability to threats.

Secure Borders: Manage and secure the nation's borders, territorial waters, and air space.

Emergency Response: Lead in disaster preparation, management, and recovery (e.g., FEMA).

Cybersecurity/Infrastructure: Protect critical infrastructure and cyber networks.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Seems like Billie Eilish is writing her material…or maybe Phineas…

Author: TakethetrainKnute (34831 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:48 pm on Feb 3, 2026
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Do you still beat your wife, Ned? [A straw question is just a straw question.]

Author: ND521 (9797 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 11:40 pm on Feb 3, 2026
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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The propensity of the left to turn everything into an existential crisis is tiresome

Author: LanceManion (9846 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 11:27 pm on Feb 3, 2026
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Yes, the catastrophising started during CoVid and hasn't abated.

Author: iairishcheeks (29144 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:40 am on Feb 4, 2026
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Great way to put it. These people literally have no sense of a true threat. Pure emotions.

Author: LanceManion (9846 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 2:24 pm on Feb 4, 2026
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Excellent wordage.

Author: Hensou (10405 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 2:12 am on Feb 4, 2026
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Pretty sure I stole the term from MAS.

Author: iairishcheeks (29144 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:31 am on Feb 4, 2026
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Democrat from Illinois. Do not take seriously.

Author: ELP (11110 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 10:20 pm on Feb 3, 2026
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Sounds logical.

Author: Hensou (10405 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 2:07 am on Feb 4, 2026
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Rep. Ramirez isn't the only only one deeply concerned about DHS/CBP/ICE leadership...so are GOP

Author: TyroneIrish (23559 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 8:54 pm on Feb 3, 2026
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leaders like Sen. Tillis...and none of them are advocating any violence...not sure why you say such things...are YOU trying to foment violence? ;-)





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you sound like a revolutionary. do you consider yourself a revolutionary?

Author: und67 (7068 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:08 am on Feb 4, 2026
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msm, dnc, antifa, blm: trying to kill america.
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Trying for another locked thread? ;-)...take a hike '67...(what a piece of work)

Author: TyroneIrish (23559 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:09 am on Feb 4, 2026
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can't answer, can you? simple question. fyi: taking hikes is good for you.

Author: und67 (7068 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:55 pm on Feb 4, 2026
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msm, dnc, antifa, blm: trying to kill america.
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You support violence against the unborn, but not against nazis? Interesting.

Author: NedoftheHill (46083 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)

Posted at 10:24 pm on Feb 3, 2026
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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I support Mercy for women who have had their reproductive systems assaulted against their will, and

Author: TyroneIrish (23559 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:50 am on Feb 4, 2026
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allowing them the option of ending such illegitimate pregnancies, if they so choose...like the vast majority of Americans...and the tens of thousands of medical professionals in the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists...i.e. I'm not alone in that judgement.

Now, back to your OP attempt at a strawman argument...I've already responded with the addition of GOP leaders voicing their desire to remove...without violence...Kristi Noem and others in DHS. Based on polling of Republicans, Democrats and Independents across the country, that sentiment is held by a majority.


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Did they start with a land acknowledgement?

Author: iairishcheeks (29144 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:53 pm on Feb 3, 2026
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Something like, we are living on stolen lands so the idea of having borders, a civil civil society and a nation are non-starters. We should welcome in anyone who desires to steal this stolen land from us, because we feel guilty.

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Excited by the cage match between Kristi "ICE Barbie" Noem & Stephen "Goebbels" Miller? /s

Author: ND521 (9797 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 7:56 pm on Feb 3, 2026
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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Do you think your audience may think that violence is warranted against nazis?

Author: NedoftheHill (46083 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)

Posted at 8:30 pm on Feb 3, 2026
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Or, do you think no one on the Left would ever believe that violence is justified against nazis?

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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ICE Barbie: Everything I’ve done, I’ve done at the direction of the President and Stephen.

Author: ND521 (9797 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 8:58 pm on Feb 3, 2026
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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Either...

Author: NedoftheHill (46083 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)

Posted at 10:10 pm on Feb 3, 2026
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you are incapable of answering a simple question, or

you recognize your own hypocrisy, and you seek to avoid calling attention to it by deflecting with non-sensical comments.

So, we have to guess. I'm going with the second option: You know you are being hypocritical.


Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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An insurrectionist by any definition.

Author: BaronVonZemo (62621 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:51 pm on Feb 3, 2026
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Isn't the actual issue that ICE agents killed U.S. citizens?

Author: ND521 (9797 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 9:33 pm on Feb 3, 2026
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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US citizens breaking the law, threatening their lives while resisting and attacking them.

Author: BaronVonZemo (62621 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 1:28 pm on Feb 4, 2026
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In the case of the violent dude, he brought a gun and reached to use it.
But this rabbit hole isn’t where Ned was going , so I will end it here fully expecting you to rationalize these people’s sad and foolish actions.


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The actual issue is what I asked in the opening post.

Author: NedoftheHill (46083 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)

Posted at 10:10 pm on Feb 3, 2026
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Nah, your straw question is bullshit. The issue is that ICE has assaulted and killed U.S. citizens.

Author: ND521 (9797 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 11:42 pm on Feb 3, 2026
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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And you raged when Ashley Babbitt was murdered by Capitol PD?

Author: ELP (11110 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 2:18 pm on Feb 4, 2026
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Maybe you won't answer because you don't understand which answer is worse.

Author: NedoftheHill (46083 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)

Posted at 3:56 am on Feb 4, 2026
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You have adopted a premise which leads only to unacceptable conclusions, and you don't know how to recover, and you are embarrassed, so you flee from your own position.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.

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