The SAVE Act...another 80/20 issue.
Dem opposition merely reinforces the suspicion that they need maximum ballot box flexibility to win.
Link: https://nypost.com/2026/02/08/us-news/dem-pols-battle-against-national-voter-id-rule-despite-71-of-their-voters-backing-it/
Replies to: The SAVE Act...another 80/20 issue.
Voter ID and proof of citizenship should not be controversial or debated
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Unless you plan to cheat votes.
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What do you say to a free National ID?
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Unnecessary. .
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Necessary.
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Like a passport?
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Boom!
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The two of you don’t understand what a passport is actually for.
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answer the question
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He did. We already have one. It’s called a passport.
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which part of FREE national ID are you having a problem with?
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That was RFKs idea, utilizing the post offices.
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What do you say to nationalizing the voting process?
I'm open to discussing both. You?
NO
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We agree on this. Let the local yahoos elected whatever crazies they choose.
Just not at a federal level... cuz that affects us all.
We don’t agree on this. I say - Keep voting on a States level.
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A major elections integrity compromise is possible - and obvious
Voter ID + nationwide mail-in voting + motor voter laws. No to showing proof of citizenship to vote.
Both sides get something, both sides compromised on other things.
Why no proof of citizenship to vote? That seems pretty basic ... a 100/0 issue.
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The Left wants to ballot harvest & whatever rule assists that - they are for and vice versa.
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Mail in voting is the most egregious source of fraud. Show up to show out!
I live in Michigan where the mailed out ballots have been the deciding factor recently.
People should be able to vote online.
If I can do my banking, manage my investments and do my taxes online, why can't I vote online?
Seems more amenable to fraud.
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Not if it's done right.
I'm sure you occasionally receive "suspicious sign on" emails and/or texts. If this was you, no action is needed, but if it wasn't you press this button.
Thanks for voting, here is how your vote was tallied. If you didn't vote and/or our tally is wrong...
You can say that about anything, even dictatorships.
How often are things done right, in perpetuity?
Right, how silly for me to argue that we should do things the right way, because... What?
We clearly are not doing things the right way now. As evidenced by the lack of trust in almost all of our institutions.
Vote harvesting is pretty bad.
e.g., "helping" senior citizens vote at nursing homes, collecting their ballots for them. Massive fraud possibilities.
Vote harvesting- It must be true if you’re saying it’s true.
Again, there is no evidence of vote harvesting anywhere. There is however evidence that 1 president did try to steal an election. I wonder who that was.
Did you know that Trump cast a Mail-In Ballot in the 2020 election?...His "Big Lie" is all smoke and
you're inhaling it...don't be a dupe for that (expletive) moron (credit to Rex Tillerson).
There is zero evidence that, that is true. It’s proved to be a bullshit R talking point. Mail in
and absentee ballots have been around for decades. Only since Obama was a candidate this became an issue scam talking point.
Zero evidence because we don't have the data.
The other part of RFKs idea was, you could go to a government website, enter your free national ID # and see how your vote was tallied.
We have the technology to do all of this. And with the transparency, people can no longer question the integrity of the system and these stupid arguments among partisans go away.
People like you are the only ones giving stupid arguments about voting integrity.
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Of voter fraud? Of course we have data.
We have hundreds of elections of data. Millions of votes. It is an intensely studied issue.
Almost everyone who works elections in both red and blue states takes their job very seriously. They are committed to democracy, not to a party.
And the swing districts are preparing now to fight off interference from the White House in November.
Almost, key word.
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Yes, for innumerate morons it is the key word.
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Innumerate because you don't have valid data.
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There is no feedback loop, verification.
You can show me the data, but you can't prove the validity of the data.
You should look into that more, if you are really interested
Because you are not right.
How do I know how my vote was counted?
If I mail my vote, I don't even know if it was received, much less counted and how.
That does not imply that there is no data on electoral integrity
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Again, no feedback loop. No real data.
This is why, RFKs solution to this is so brilliant. If everyone that voted can go look at their vote, voter integrity confidence immediately goes to 100.
You're right, there is no reliable election data, you understand it so much better than the pros
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You don't have the receipts, just admit it, poser.
When you should be like We can get vote integrity confidence near 100? Tell me more."
When it comes to election integrity, the MAGA bubble is 100% evidence-free
It's a faith-based skepticism. No amount of evidence (or lack thereof) will convince them otherwise.
Can't verify anything without the person appearing at the polling stationwith a valid ID.
Folks move and die and become incapacitated. The ONLY way to be sure that any vote is legitimate by a US citizen is to have them show up in person.
Agreed.
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Mail-in ballots safe, secure and verifiable...as proven in the 2020 election recounts...you're
making a fool of yourself...
Link: https://bipartisanpolicy.org/report/mail-voting-is-safe-secure/
Mail-in ballots are objectively impossible to verify.
But tell us why they are important to Democrats but not Republicans?
As if we can't make it safe & secure.
Not sure you understand the word "compromise."
I assure you there is no more fraud in mail-in voting than any other kind. And there is very little in any other kind.
I have zero interest in compromising on election integrity.
There is no need to prove any fraud if everyone must show up.
There is no reason to allow people to vote without showing up other than to commit fraud.
You are deeply misiniformed about the security of voting by mail
You listen to too much right-wing media.
It is not any more fraud-heavy than in-person voting.
And there are zealots on the left equally uninterested in a compromised. The outline of a deal is obvious to normals.
You are deeply misinformed about the absolute integrity of voting in person.
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There is no reason to make voting so easy that the laziest moron can do it.
Do we really want the laziest people, the dumbest people deciding our country's future? Of course not.
Maybe forcing someone to get up off their couch on voting day is a decent proxy for making sure voters actually care enough to inform themselves slightly more than the most ignorant people in the country.
If a person has a certified non-mental, physical-only disability, then we can talk about how to handle that. There should be hoops to jump through to get such a certification for voting purposes.
Yeah there is.
Our biggest problem is that the people who care enough to go to the primaries also happen to be the nuttiest and looniest partisan people in our society. And so, we get bad choices, which disenfranchises everyone from the "lazy moron" to the I'm too busy that day, to the apathetic because it will suck no matter what.
We need more engagement, not less.
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