The royal douche formerly known as Prince Andrew has been arrested.
On his birthday no less.
You're up Pam, where are the indictments?
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This has to do w/ the guy giving out British government secrets. Am I wrong?
If that's the case, this is a British issue not tied with the United States. At least that's what I've been hearing all morning long from different media outlets.
Heard that is the case. Age of consent is 16 in the UK...
...so at best the Brits could get him on is a sextrafficking of adults case.... no "child molestation" of a 17-year-old in Britain, only in the US. Instead, they are going with the state secrets / insider trading types of crimes.
The Brits are taking this seriously
Us..not so much. Ted Lieu made some really explosive accusations yesterday - the kind that would certainly bring legal action if they are false. If he is lying, then Trump would have grounds to sue his pants off. If not, however....wow.
Link: https://www.c-span.org/clip/news-conference/rep-ted-lieu-claims-president-trump-is-accused-of-raping-children-in-the-epstein-files/5191713
I don't think Lieu can be sued. His speech is likely protected by the speech or debate clause.
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Ted Lieu has no shame being his association w/ former donor Ed Buck.
All his falsehoods have been already discredited by the Feds, but, he already knew that.
Lieu is looking for attention and trying to score some political points by
Making those claims against Trump. Those same claims were repeated here by the usual suspects. They have quieted down when it was released Trump actually reported Epstein. Thar didn’t stop good ole Ted though.
Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=259452
Massie and Khanna aren't going to stop until we have full accountability.
And I salute them for this.
If Trump raped children he should be in prison, same as everyone else involved in the crimes and the coverups. We are at a time in this country where most of the general public does not have faith in our institutions, this is very bad for democracy. Time to step up or get out of the way, Pam! Same goes for you, Kash!
While I appreciate what Massie and Khanna did, they seemed to have struck out on the
Names they made a a big deal about. The unmasked innocent people.
You’re right that anyone associated with what Epstein did with trafficking and abuse needs to be arrested. I don’t see it happening though. They are probably rich and powerful and no way are they going to be taken down easily. It’s a disgusting situation that should not be this difficult to deal with. These people circle the wagons to protect their vile lifestyle. If Trump is involved, he needs to be prosecuted. Just like everyone else.
They can't force the DOJ to act, though.
They can keep it in the headlines to some degree, but only the DOJ can prosecute.
Yep, and it's pretty clear this DOJ has no intention of taking action on this.
They could impeach her, but she'd just be replaced by another stooge.
It was just the Prince and Epstein. Everyone else didn’t know or participate.
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Umm, wow. Stupid alert
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You actually believe that?
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Oh sure I do, the same way I believe Joe Biden stole the 2020 elections, the same way i believe Jan.
6 2021 was a tourist protest mixed in with QAnon riot.
Do you believe CoVid came from a lab, UFOs are real and NSA Surveillance was real?
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Hey, if trump people like you think it's all true, I'm all in.
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Joe runs circles around the staff, the laptop is Russian disinformation, Epstein killed himself.
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I do believe Epstein "killed himself" under the following circumstances...
Epstein knew full well who he was dealing with, who he had dirt on, and how much power they had, could bring to bear, and just what they could make happen.
When he was going to the Manhattan Correctional Center he was delivered a message that essentially consisted of the following:
1) You know you possess too much information and are too dangerous to live.
2) You will be provided with the means to commit suicide in the following manner. You will be told exactly when to do it and we will see to it that the cameras are disabled and the guards are looking the other way for the necessary amount of time for you to complete the task.
3) IF you FAIL TO SUCCEED, we will be forced to have you executed in jail in very short order AND we WILL see that it is then carried out in the most brutal, painful and disfiguring way possible.
4) This is the best deal you will get. You are a smart enough man to know what to do now.
In this way, Epstein's death was actually a homicide...but he was forced to be the accomplice...and, as such, the end result was consistent with suicide for the Coroner's purposes.
That is a better theory than 6 degrees of coincidental negligence and/or incompetence.
Recall that the FBI destroyed the raw footage of the cameras that were working, and lied about it. I can accept that people make mistakes, but when people lie about it we have problems. "Hey, okay, yes we lied about that, but everything else we said was true." Sure.
See that, you're right in there with baron and all the other dipshits.
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Facts are stubborn things, Jim.
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You should tape that to your forehead.
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For what crimes do you expect indictments?
Keep in mind there are statutes of limitations.
Keep in mind there has to be substantial evidence to charge folks.
Keep in mind a sitting President cannot be indicted.
Don’t know the UK standard, but the Andrew thing is alleged to be rule violations while in office
What that means, who knows? But possible that he has certain obligations while serving in his role that go beyond the basic charges. E.g., duty to uphold appropriate appearance of the Crown, which is called into question by associating on sex island.
Could also be entirely performative.
Side question, would it be in the interest of justice to make a deal with Ghislaine?
She knows who did what.
I am divided on this.
Link: https://www.npr.org/2026/02/10/g-s1-109413/maxwell-appeals-for-clemency
No. Her credibility is zero.
DOJ would need hard independent evidence to charge folks with the crimes you earmarked.
Most of the known victims are still alive.
See the end of Pam Bondi's testimony.
They still need corroboration.
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Yes, I understand how the justice system works.
DOJ/FBI needs to do their job, that is all I (and many others) are asking for. They have failed the survivors thus far.
Link: https://youtu.be/Wzelc5vCZJs?si=6VqaX-HNz9kAJoiZ
How soon after she cuts the deal...do the cameras outside her cell stop working and the guards fall
...asleep?
Yeah, she may die in a failed robbery attempt on her first day out.
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Child Molestation, Sex Trafficking, Conspiracy (what you would call collusion).
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Here is Maxwell’s indictment:
There has to be admissible and substantial evidence to charge folks.
Link: https://www.justice.gov/d9/press-releases/attachments/2020/07/02/u.s._v._ghislaine_maxwell_indictment.pdf
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