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"Trump Announces 10% Global Tariff and Rails Against Supreme Court Ruling"...he's not taking it well

Author: TyroneIrish (23720 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:24 pm on Feb 20, 2026
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...here's an excerpt from the article...
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Toy company CEO says there's no excuse to not send tariff refunds

From CNN's Pamela Boykoff

The CEO of educational toy company Learning Resources, a plaintiff in today’s decision, said he expects the government to return the money his company paid in tariffs.

Rick Woldenberg told CNN’s Paula Newton he felt vindicated by the Supreme Court decision and did not buy the argument that it would be too onerous for the government to refund the tariffs, comparing it to the process for federal tax refunds.

“They know exactly what they took from us, when and why and how much and they can just reverse the gears and send it back to us,” Woldenberg said.

“It’s our money. They took it unlawfully. They have to return it. And I’m not crying for them that they find it inconvenient.”

Woldenberg said his business spent more than $10 million on IEEPA tariffs in 2025 and the decision to sue was not political, but about protecting the people who depend on the family business for their livelihoods

Here’s what we know about the possibility of tariff refunds in light of today’s ruling.

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Link: https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/trump-administration-us-iran-02-20-26

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Thread Level: 2

He’s a petulant child as is his base

Author: Domer From Hell (17799 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:25 am on Feb 21, 2026
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We're all born bald baby!
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This has always been a win-win situation for me.

Author: NedoftheHill (46144 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)

Posted at 2:10 am on Feb 21, 2026
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Either his tariffs would be upheld, which would be good for the U.S. because the tariffs are good,

or,

The Court would determine that Congress inappropriately attempted to pass constitutional congressional powers to the President, which I always suspected to be the case, and a constitutional clarification in this regard is also good. And, this could have ramifications for other congressional powers Congress attempted to transfer to the executive branch. The Left may come to dislike such limitations.

Of course, as far as tariffs are concerned, unless one of the other justifications for tariffs is upheld, it would mean that tariffs are dead as a concept, since Congress will never pass tariffs going forward, just like Congress will likely never declare war going forward.


Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 4

Explain why you think the tariffs are good.

Author: Domer From Hell (17799 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:11 am on Feb 21, 2026
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We're all born bald baby!
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Tariffs keep technology, business and jobs in the US.

Author: NedoftheHill (46144 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)

Posted at 2:22 am on Feb 21, 2026
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Nothing causes a company to scramble faster to keep their US production lines operational than tariffs. I've seen it in action.

And protecting US manufacturing is a serious national defense issue as far as I'm concerned. It is more than worth the sacrifices required to make it work.

Without tariffs, US companies are transferring manufacturing to China just to meet a quarterly number on Wall Street. (We should also do away with quarterly reporting. It encourages short term decision making to the detrimental of the US.)


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Do you think Trump even thinks about domestic manufacturing when he enforces tariffs?

Author: Domer From Hell (17799 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:10 am on Feb 21, 2026
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I don’t. I think he looks at.tariffs as a revenue source and he doesn’t care who pays them.

Tariffs act as taxes on domestic consumers and businesses, often hurting the very industries they are meant to support by raising input costs. They can lead to lower GDP growth and reduced

Consumers face higher prices for goods. Small businesses often struggle more than large ones to manage increased costs, impacting their ability to compete.


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We're all born bald baby!
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He talks about it when he does it. Just did today w.r.t. a metal parts manufacturer.

Author: NedoftheHill (46144 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)

Posted at 3:29 am on Feb 21, 2026
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Regardless, my points stand independently of what he thinks.

You listed some drawbacks of tariffs. I don't deny there is a cost, but I already said I believe the price is worth paying. Tariffs are stopping US companies from enabling China industry & technology with short-sighted, Wall-Street-oriented decisions. Our economy is now consumer driven, not manufacturer driven. Tariffs seek to reverse that (or at least slow down the progression).

We beat Germany and Japan because of our manufacturing prowess. We no longer have that. We do have a tech advantage. But guess which wins a war of attrition...one Panzer or 10 Shermans?

But re tech: US companies are licensing our tech into China so China corporations can have a non-US supply chain (China's China-only supply chain requirement being their version of tariffs). Tariffs are a weak attempt to slow things down. Don't let the fact that Trump is the person doing this require you to believe it is a bad thing. For national defense, this is necessary.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Tariffs can be extremely beneficial when they’re implemented by professionals…

Author: Domer From Hell (17799 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:50 am on Feb 21, 2026
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And that ain’t Trump. He has weaponized them and frankly, I don’t think he knows what he’s doing.

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We're all born bald baby!
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I know his tariffs are effective. I've been in the meetings of business leaders responding to them.

Author: NedoftheHill (46144 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)

Posted at 3:57 am on Feb 21, 2026
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I vote on policy that is good for the nation, not whether I hate the president ... a petulant child might do the latter, though.

And don't get me wrong. Tariffs aren't a universal systemic positive...but they are needed now. You wouldn't soak your manufacturing line in water every day ... that is insane. But, when the factory catches fire, you will be happy that the fire department is there to give things a good soak.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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No matter how hard you try, you can't put enough lipstick on this pig to make anyone buy it...

Author: TyroneIrish (23720 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 7:00 am on Feb 21, 2026
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...businesses are hurting from these tariffs...along with consumers. Writ Large, the Stock Market applauded the Supreme Court's decision.




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I work with medium to large size businesses….

Author: Domer From Hell (17799 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:44 am on Feb 21, 2026
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I hear more complaining than positive comments. We have a big government contracting concentration here in San Diego: Most business owners that I talk to feel they’ve been adversely affected by some of the tariffs.

More importantly, people that live paycheck to paycheck are paying more for basic necessities because of tariffs.


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We're all born bald baby!
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Exactly. A reflection of his voters’ temperament and aimlessness.

Author: conorlarkin (22289 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:41 am on Feb 21, 2026
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 4

It’s amazing that he has some educated people in his base…..

Author: Domer From Hell (17799 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:16 am on Feb 21, 2026
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Some on here are highly educated and have bought into his con hook, line, and sinker. Perplexing to say the least.

We're all born bald baby!
Thread Level: 5

Educated, but fearful that people of color are “coming for ‘em.”

Author: conorlarkin (22289 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:29 am on Feb 21, 2026
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That’s really what it’s all about.

Protecting the White Castle.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 2

He is not well.

Author: ND521 (9804 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 11:59 pm on Feb 20, 2026
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
Thread Level: 3

This is not news to anyone. Sadly this is what got him elected

Author: Curly1918 (17467 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 12:19 am on Feb 21, 2026
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Oh! And running against a harridan and a DEI ditz,


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