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Either his tariffs would be upheld, which would be good for the U.S. because the tariffs are good,

or,

The Court would determine that Congress inappropriately attempted to pass constitutional congressional powers to the President, which I always suspected to be the case, and a constitutional clarification in this regard is also good. And, this could have ramifications for other congressional powers Congress attempted to transfer to the executive branch. The Left may come to dislike such limitations.

Of course, as far as tariffs are concerned, unless one of the other justifications for tariffs is upheld, it would mean that tariffs are dead as a concept, since Congress will never pass tariffs going forward, just like Congress will likely never declare war going forward.

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Nothing causes a company to scramble faster to keep their US production lines operational than tariffs. I've seen it in action.

And protecting US manufacturing is a serious national defense issue as far as I'm concerned. It is more than worth the sacrifices required to make it work.

Without tariffs, US companies are transferring manufacturing to China just to meet a quarterly number on Wall Street. (We should also do away with quarterly reporting. It encourages short term decision making to the detrimental of the US.)

I don’t. I think he looks at.tariffs as a revenue source and he doesn’t care who pays them.

Tariffs act as taxes on domestic consumers and businesses, often hurting the very industries they are meant to support by raising input costs. They can lead to lower GDP growth and reduced

Consumers face higher prices for goods. Small businesses often struggle more than large ones to manage increased costs, impacting their ability to compete.

Regardless, my points stand independently of what he thinks.

You listed some drawbacks of tariffs. I don't deny there is a cost, but I already said I believe the price is worth paying. Tariffs are stopping US companies from enabling China industry & technology with short-sighted, Wall-Street-oriented decisions. Our economy is now consumer driven, not manufacturer driven. Tariffs seek to reverse that (or at least slow down the progression).

We beat Germany and Japan because of our manufacturing prowess. We no longer have that. We do have a tech advantage. But guess which wins a war of attrition...one Panzer or 10 Shermans?

But re tech: US companies are licensing our tech into China so China corporations can have a non-US supply chain (China's China-only supply chain requirement being their version of tariffs). Tariffs are a weak attempt to slow things down. Don't let the fact that Trump is the person doing this require you to believe it is a bad thing. For national defense, this is necessary.

And that ain’t Trump. He has weaponized them and frankly, I don’t think he knows what he’s doing.

I vote on policy that is good for the nation, not whether I hate the president ... a petulant child might do the latter, though.

And don't get me wrong. Tariffs aren't a universal systemic positive...but they are needed now. You wouldn't soak your manufacturing line in water every day ... that is insane. But, when the factory catches fire, you will be happy that the fire department is there to give things a good soak.

...businesses are hurting from these tariffs...along with consumers. Writ Large, the Stock Market applauded the Supreme Court's decision.

I hear more complaining than positive comments. We have a big government contracting concentration here in San Diego: Most business owners that I talk to feel they’ve been adversely affected by some of the tariffs.

More importantly, people that live paycheck to paycheck are paying more for basic necessities because of tariffs.

Same thing is true for taxes and regulations. They all have a cost that affects the bottom line and which must be managed. Question is, is it worth paying that cost in each case? Reasonable people can disagree on that; not everyone on the other side is a petulant child.

Businesses can complain against tariffs, taxes, & regulations. That, by itself, is beside the point. What is important is how companies manage regulations and tariffs. You can complain if you want, but what matters is what you do.

If a business's entire manufacturing capabilities are overseas, and they have no US options, then maybe all they can do is complain.

My experience us with companies that built themselves up by manufacturing in the US. They are not pure importers. They have become true global companies with manufacturing everywhere, but trending towards moving manufacturing out of the US to countries like China, because of pressures from Wall Street. Those companies have been gradually shutting down YS manufacturing. Tariffs change the landscape for them, and they immediately keep jobs in the US...which helps many people living paycheck to paycheck. Tariffs immediately help those people by keeping them employed.

Regarding those people who live paycheck to paycheck, especially in California, there are many ways to reduce regulations and reduce taxes, but the government there has decided it is worth the cost for such people to pay those costs. Tariffs, in isolation, won't be the primary cause of their financial pain. Trump's opposition there play a key role in that cost of living. Their objection to Trump doing what they do is not principled; it is political.

They all tariff and duty the shit out of us.

Recent data indicates that tariffs have generally not helped the U.S. manufacturing industry, often resulting in higher costs and reduced employment. While intended to boost domestic production, studies show they increased expenses for manufacturers relying on imported materials, causing a contraction in manufacturing jobs by late 2025.
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Key findings regarding the impact of tariffs include:
Job Declines: Following the implementation of tariffs, the U.S. manufacturing sector saw significant job losses, with 72,000 positions lost between April 2025 and December 2025.
Increased Costs: Tariffs on raw materials like steel and aluminum raised production costs for downstream manufacturers, making them less competitive.
Marginal Benefits vs. Costs: While some specific industries may have received protection, studies from the Federal Reserve found that the burden of higher input costs and retaliatory tariffs outweighed the gains, resulting in a net negative impact.

Industry Sentiment: In an October 2025 survey, 51% of small businesses reported that tariffs decreased their profitability, while only 5% reported benefits.

While supporters argue that tariffs are necessary to protect domestic industries and encourage the reshoring of supply chains, the overall evidence suggests they have created significant economic uncertainty and have not led to the manufacturing boom that was projected.

From people who have never done international business.

In the government contracting space and in the civilian sector. The majority do not favor Trump’s over-emphasis on tariffs. They feel it impacts their business in a negative way.

Regarding your last paragraph…bullshit. Tariffs have absolutely increased the cost of goods. Hell, the majority of the tariff income is at the expense of the American consumer. It isn’t political…it’s just the way the less fortunate feel.

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Some on here are highly educated and have bought into his con hook, line, and sinker. Perplexing to say the least.

That’s really what it’s all about.

Protecting the White Castle.

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Oh! And running against a harridan and a DEI ditz,