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I just hope he doesn’t lose his FIFA peace prize

Author: Chris94 (38320 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:35 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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What a shitty way to start the day.

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Iran, Argentina, Yemen, Somalia, Nigeria, Iraq and Syria; Mexico and Canada beware!

Author: ND521 (9817 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 8:33 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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For Ned and the other Trump cheerleaders --

Author: conorlarkin (22314 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:41 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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We Americans have begun another Middle Eastern war based on dubious intelligence claims, and as in 2003 I fear we haven’t thought through the substantial risks and uncertain gains.

President Trump says that the aim of this “massive and ongoing” war is no less than regime change: He has vowed to devastate Iran’s military force, destroy its nuclear program (again) and topple the leadership. Lofty goals. But fundamental questions remain: How likely is it that he can achieve all of this, and at what cost and risk?

War is uncertain. Sometimes it goes as smoothly as the Persian Gulf war of 1991, and sometimes you find yourself mired in Vietnam, Afghanistan or Iraq. I’ve reported from Iran over the years, and I’ve seen the popular resentment against the government, so maybe the attacks will lead Iran’s government to collapse the way its allies in Syria did in 2024.

But air wars alone have a poor record of overthrowing leaders: The United States under Presidents Joe Biden and Trump spent more than $7 billion bombing Yemen and couldn’t dislodge even the weak, unpopular and poorly armed Houthis.

In general, American military interventions have a better record of success when they have a precise, limited objective — like the operation in Venezuela to seize President Nicolás Maduro. This war with Iran appears the opposite, aiming for nothing less than the overthrow of a government of more than 90 million people.

The point of military action is to make us safer, but Iran didn’t appear to be in a position to pose a substantial threat to America in the coming years. By attacking Iran, I fear we increased risk rather than reduced it. Another cost of the war is that it will deplete munitions, such as Tomahawk missiles and various interceptors already in short supply, and divert us from America’s long-term strategic challenges in Asia. We will be degrading our military capacity to address the next crisis.

Like Saddam Hussein’s Iraq, Iran has a repressive and unpopular government that is a malign influence on the region. Iran just massacred thousands of protesters — at least 6,800 civilians and perhaps many more, according to the Human Rights Activists News Agency. The regime is a pillar of misogyny, supports bad actors throughout the Middle East and holds back millions of well-educated people.

And as with Iraq in 2003, a war is not necessarily the best tool to deal with a brutal and hostile government. There are more problems in international relations than solutions, and in the past the illusion of an easy military answer has repeatedly caused tragedy for ourselves as well as others.

Some wars are necessary; by contrast, this is a war of choice. There was a diplomatic path that showed promise in addressing Iran’s nuclear program. It appeared that Iran was willing to offer a deal that suspended uranium enrichment for several years and after that limited enrichment to very low levels under rigorous inspections, while also diluting its stockpile of highly enriched uranium.

That would have been an unsatisfying solution, for it would not have addressed Iran’s missiles or its repression; diplomatic solutions often are unsatisfying, because they are the result of compromise. But Trump created a nuclear crisis with Iran in part by tearing up the imperfect nuclear accord that President Barack Obama had reached with the ayatollahs; if we had remained in the deal, it seems to me we would be in a safer place today — and at peace.

To undermine the Iranian government and bring about change, we had other approaches that would not have involved war. The United States could have tried to knit together the fragmented opposition and worked to destabilize the militias. It could have smuggled in many more Starlink terminals so that Iranians could communicate. The intelligence community could have prioritized investigations of the corruption of the leadership; I’d love to see leaks illuminating the wealth of top Iranian officials or reports of their children and grandchildren enjoying their sybaritic lifestyles at home and abroad. The United States can still do these things.

Arguably one of the factors that undermined the Iranian leaders the most last year was not a bomb but a video showing the lavish wedding of an Iranian hard-liner’s daughter, as she wore a strapless, low-cut dress; it went viral in Iran and underscored the hypocrisy and double standards of leaders who inflict on the public rules that they don’t follow themselves. We need more of those videos leaked.

All this is less dramatic than blowing up naval stations or oil refineries. But remember that in 1979 it was not machine guns and bombs that toppled the shah, but rather smuggled cassette tapes of sermons and songs. I question whether a bombing campaign can topple the ayatollahs, but they are so unpopular that I believe that at some point they can and will be ousted by a more organized and better-funded opposition.

Look, we all need some humility about what lies ahead. Doves like me have been right about some uses of force (such as the Iraq war) but wrong about others (such as the Iraq war surge). As I weigh the benefits and costs of this new war with Iran, I fear that we have sleepwalked into yet another perilous folly in the Middle East.

When you’ve witnessed the horror of war, you believe it should be a last resort — not an abyss we tumble into without legal basis or clear objectives, pushing us all unnecessarily into a riskier world in which the only certainty is bloodshed.


Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/28/opinion/trump-iran-war.html

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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You should cheer for Trump too.

Author: NedoftheHill (46180 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)

Posted at 7:05 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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Unless you think you can trust the existing regime not to do what it says it will do, this is the only way to stop them from gaining the bomb and using it against Israel and the US. Will Trump succeed? I don't know. If Trump fails, the world will be at greater risk.

As far as regime change, Trump is calling on the Iranian people to do that. If they don't rise to the occasion, then this was doomed to fail no matter what (and we will have to bomb them periodically going forward). You can't give democracy to people; people must take democracy. If Iranians don't want freedome, it cannot be given to them.

Paying the Iranians not to do what they repeatedly say they will do (wipe Israel off the face of the earth) is just sending money to extortionists, over and over again, in the hope we can trust the untrustworthy.

Trump has the balls to do something no other president had the balls to do. Is the right move? I don't know. But, at this point, we should all hope he succeeds. If the Democrats succeed in holding Trump back at this point (as many of them are demanding Congress to do), then the ayatollah-regime will just be emboldened, and the world will be very much worse off...especially those Iranian sexy ladies you lust after.


Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Prayers for success and no US casualties

Author: Domer From Hell (17821 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:42 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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We're all born bald baby!
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I'll leave that to bootlickers like you, Ned.

Author: ND521 (9817 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 8:34 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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I'll leave supporting Iran and terrorism to you.

Author: NedoftheHill (46180 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)

Posted at 8:37 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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The JCPOA gave us boots on the ground in Iran to verify that Iran kept its uranium enrichment

Author: TyroneIrish (23794 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 8:18 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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below 5%...actually more like 3.7%...and it didn't cost us a dime...it was all Iranian funds previously seized...and could be seized again...withdrawal from the JCPOA is turning out to be near the top of the list of "Dumbest Things any President has Ever Done".

Regime change w/o U.S. or Allied forces to stand between the citizens and a murderous regime is a huge "IF".

Given Bibi's use of on-going conflicts to suspend elections and stay in office, it would appear that with Trump's tanking approval polls, he's warmed up to that strategy for avoiding accountability as well. Look for him to push harder for "Emergency Powers" that impact our up-coming Mid-Terms.

You should pay more attention to your "I don't knows".


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How many US citizens have died due to the JCPOA cash we provided to Iran?

Author: NedoftheHill (46180 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)

Posted at 8:32 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Shuffle, question, shuffle, divert, circle back to bootlick.

Author: ND521 (9817 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 8:34 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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On one side, we have Trump and all Middle Eastern countries. On other side, Iran and Democrats.

Author: NedoftheHill (46180 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)

Posted at 8:36 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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It appears Congress will have to raise taxes to fund the "regime change" war.

Author: conorlarkin (22314 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:08 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Nah. We’ll just borrow more.

Author: Chris94 (38320 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:56 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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Indeed. At least it is for a good cause, not for genital mutilation overseas.

Author: NedoftheHill (46180 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)

Posted at 5:52 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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More debt has never been at issue for either party. The only issue has been what we use the our endlessly increasing debt for: global wokism for no benefit to Americans, or for things that actually benefit Americans.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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All a ploy to get Italy into the World Cup. Trump love him some Meloni.

Author: LanceManion (10005 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 3:54 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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you jealous?

Author: und67 (7071 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:14 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%2Fid%2FOIP.xwmozUG87eur59QnIeZwLgHaLo%3Fpid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=b0bdc9c70caa33d594ccad2c1871e010d7457112cbed0b2cb5e946258e265451&ipo=images

msm, dnc, antifa, blm: trying to kill america.
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Reckless indeed.

Author: conorlarkin (22314 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:50 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/28/opinion/iran-attack-trump-war.html

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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He’s thinking “how can he keep this thing going into November?”.

Author: jimbasil (54201 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 3:00 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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Suspend elections, get rid of the American thirst for Epstein Files and remain POTUS for a fourth term.

And of course receive another Nobel or eight. I think Greenland, Iceland and Denmark might be in big trouble now.


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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That’s a bingo!

Author: Curly1918 (17498 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 3:58 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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And if you believe in a collective unconscious… it’s what the people want.

USA! uSA! USA!

We are a tribal species.


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I wonder who Israel is going to have us hit next

Author: Chris94 (38320 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:50 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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Greenland

Author: Frankx (6204 Posts - Joined: Aug 23, 2017)

Posted at 7:47 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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The evil Jews are pulling the strings again? This the position of Tulane's political science dept?

Author: NedoftheHill (46180 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)

Posted at 5:48 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Without these on-going conflicts, Bibi knows he'd be defeated in an election and have to stand trial

Author: TyroneIrish (23794 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 8:23 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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for his corruption...Yes, he is an Evil Jew...and the many "Law Abiding Jews" know it. Too bad you can't see the parallel with Trump...what's the problem, Ned?

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I wonder if the ADL is watching this site. You and Chris are promoting anti-semitism.

Author: NedoftheHill (46180 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)

Posted at 8:31 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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i’m excited to have so many beautiful Iranian women on dating apps

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16849 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:57 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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That's the spirit, WestCoast! Love conquers all.

Author: conorlarkin (22314 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:48 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Love? lol

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16849 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:31 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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Does the Persian rug match the drapes?

Author: TakethetrainKnute (35015 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:00 pm on Feb 28, 2026
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