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Lots of Iranians are thrilled
And others are pissed off, and will consider the Ayatollah to be a martyr.
And they will try to avenge him.
No sign yet that the regime is in any trouble…that can change, but as of now, the new boss is the same as the old boss.
If only there were some way to determine which side is good....
Right now, we have two sides of the issue, as you point out:
1) Those who support the ayatollah's regime, including Democrats; and
2) Those who oppose the ayatollah's regime, including the rest of the world with the GOP and Fetterman.
The best method for determining who is in the right seems to be to look for the side Democrats are protesting for, and then select the opposite side.
I don’t think anyone supports Iran. The problem…
That the Dems have is Trump’s lack of a plan. It’s ridiculous for Trump to make regime change a goal of he’s unwilling to commit ground troops. Air power alone won’t accomplish that goal.
It appears our Commander in Chief is unfamiliar with reverse planning.
Everyone on this Board who served understands the basic concept of (1) defining the objective and (2) identifying what steps are necessary to achieve the objective.
Example: Pegasus Bridge, Normandy, WW II
War is easy to plan compared to managing a successful post-war peace process.
But, yeah, you'd think they'd have solved the Iran problem already. I mean, it's already been, what, a day and a half?
Maybe he is the “peace president.” Seems he should leave the war shit to the pros
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Says the Epstein Administration sycophant and biggest hypocrite on the board
Does the Baltimore Catechism leave outthe part of child molestation being a mortal sin. And complicity in violence being violence.
Nonsense Ned -- no one supports the regime.
That's not the point of those who are critical of Trump's decision yesterday.
Going to war and launching military power comes with risk and costs.
Congress is entitled to know:
What's the mission?
What's the objective?
What's the basis in international law?
What is the action plan for regime change?
Intelligence estimate for success?
What are the risks?
What are the US casualty estimates?
Duration?
Costs?
How much of our military hardware will be depleted?
Impact on economy?
Support from our allies?
All of the above are reasonable questions .... and consistent with a democracy weighing in thru elected members of Congress.
Notice that Putin on his own, decided to invade Ukraine 4 years ago.
We are not Russia.
I'm glad the War Powers Act requires the president to answer reasonable questions.
Please provide a link to Obama's answers to these questions when he supported toppling Muammar Gaddafi.
The Gaddafi operation was led by NATO...the U.S. played a support role and had no troops engaged in
the fighting...a nuance that resulted in no Congressional action against Obama.
Link: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jun/16/barack-obama-libya-congress#:~:text=In%202011%2C%20President%20Barack%20Obama%20defended%20his,bombing%20does%20not%20amount%20to%20full%2Dblown%20war.
Oh, so we get to go to war when Congress declares it, or NATO leads it. Thanks, I didn't know that.
The US, at Obama's orders, bombed a hundred different locations, all to effect regime change.
I guess we need to see if there is no Congressional action against Trump. Then we'll know this is all good. That is your stated standard.
Pretty sure I can guess which side the "Globalize the Intifada" crowd is on.
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Ned is not into the 'Nuance' of military planning...unfortunately neither is Trump or anyone in
his administration.
Is there a Mullah succession plan or is more like the pope?
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They have already chosen an interim leader
They’ll elect a permanent one when things calm down.
When a car bombing results in white smoke...a new Mullah has been chosen...
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That is believable.
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Exhibit B:
Indeed...from your link...
Not your problem, right Cheeks?
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"I want real help for the Iranians, not bombs," protest organizer Etan Maburakh said.
The issue is personal for Maburakh. His family was forced to flee Iran to the United States, and he says while he understands the need for regime change, war is not the answer.
"When they bomb elementary schools killing 85 schoolgirls, that doesn't bring freedom and democracy," he said.
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