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Good observations on the war, from an expert

Author: Chris94 (38417 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:16 pm on Mar 16, 2026
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The author is Ilan Goldenberg, and he is the furthest thing away from a partisan bombthrower as you can imagine.

#1 is so heartbreaking. What a fucking fool our president is.


Three weeks into the war with Iran, a number of observations as someone who spent years war-gaming this scenario.

1. The U.S. and Israel may have produced regime transition in the worst possible way.
Ali Khamenei was 86 and had survived multiple bouts of prostate cancer. His death in the coming years would likely have triggered a real internal reckoning in Iran, potentially opening the door to somewhat more pragmatic leadership, especially after the protests and crackdown last month. Instead, the regime made its most consequential decision under existential external threat giving the hardliners a clear upperhand. Now we appear to have a successor who is 30 years younger, deeply tied to the IRGC, and radicalized by the war itself – including the killing of family members. Disastrous.

2. About seven years ago at CNAS, I helped convene a group of security, energy, and economic experts to walk through scenarios for a U.S.--Iran war and the implications for global oil prices. What we’re seeing now was considered one of the least likely but worst outcomes. The modeling assumed the Strait of Hormuz could close for 4–10 weeks, with 1–3 years required to restore oil production once you factored in infrastructure damage. Prices could spike from around $65 to $175–$200 per barrel, before eventually settling in the $80–$100 range a year later in a new normal.

3. One surprising development: Iran is still moving oil through the Strait of Hormuz while disrupting everyone else. In most war games I participated in, we assumed Iran couldn’t close the Strait and still use it themselves. That would have made the move extremely self-defeating. But Iran appears capable of harassing global shipping while still pushing some of its own exports through. That changes the calculus.

4. The U.S. now finds itself in the naval and air equivalent of the dynamic we faced in Iraq and Afghanistan. It’s a recipe for a quagmire where we win every battle and lose the war. We have overwhelming military dominance and are exacting a tremendous cost. But Iran doesn’t need to win battles. They just need occasional successes. A small boat hitting a tanker. A drone slipping through defenses in the Gulf. A strike on a hotel or oil facility. Each incident creates insecurity and drives costs up while remind everyone that the regime is surviving and fighting.

5. The deeper problem is that U.S. objectives were set far too high. Once “regime change” becomes the implicit or explicit goal, the bar for American success becomes enormous. Iran’s bar is simple: survive and keep causing disruption.

6. The options for ending this war now are all bad. You can try to secure the entire Gulf and Middle East indefinitely – extremely expensive and maybe impossible. You can invade Iran and replace the regime, but nobody is seriously going to do that. Costs are astronomical. You can try to destabilize the regime by supporting separatist groups. It probably won’t work and if it does you’ll most likely spark a civil war producing years of bloody chaos the U.S. will get blamed for. None of these are good outcomes.

7. The other escalatory options being discussed are taking the nuclear material out of Esfahan or taking Kargh Island. Esfahan is not really workable. Huge risk. You’d have been on the ground for a LONG time to safely dig in and get the nuclear material out in the middle of the country giving Iran time to reinforce from all over and over run the American position.

8. Kharg Island can be appealing to Trump. He’d love to take Iran’s ability to export oil off the map and try to coerce them to end the war. It’s much easier because it’s not in the middle of IRan. But it’s still a potentially costly ground operation. And again. Again, the Iranian government only has to survive to win and they can probably do that even without Kargh.

9. The least bad option is the classic diplomatic off-ramp. The U.S. declares that Iran’s military capabilities have been significantly degraded, which is how the Pentagon always saw the purpose of the war. Iran declares victory for surviving and demonstrating it can still threaten regional actors. It would feel unsatisfying. But this is the inevitable outcome anyway. Better to stop now than after five or ten more years of escalating costs. Remember in Afghanistan we turned down a deal very early in the war with the Taliban that looked amazing 20 years later. Don’t need to repeat that kind of mistake.

10. The U.S. and Israel are not perfectly aligned here. Trump just needs a limited win and would see long-term instability as a negative whereas for Netanyahu a weak unstable Iran that bogs the U.S. down in the MIddle East is a fine outcome. If President Trump decided he wanted Israel to stop, he likely has the leverage to push it in that direction just as he pressured Netanyahu to take a deal last fall on Gaza.

11. When this is over, the Gulf states will have to rethink their entire security strategy. They are stuck in the absolute worst place. They didn’t start this war and didn’t want it and now they are taking with some of the worst consequences. Neither doubling down with the U.S. and Israel nor placating the Iranians seems overwhelmingly appealing.

12. One clear geopolitical winner so far: Russia. Oil prices are rising. Sanctions are coming off. Western attention and military resources are shifting away from Ukraine. From Moscow’s perspective, this war is a win win win.

13. At some point China may have a role to play here. It is the world’s largest oil importer, and much of that supply comes from the Middle East. Yes they are still getting oil from Iran. But they also buy from the rest of the Middle East, and a prolonged disruption in the Gulf hits Beijing hard. That gives China a real incentive to help push toward an end to the conflict.


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Thread Level: 2

Did you mention that this dude worked as an advisor for Obama & Kamala?

Author: ELP (11261 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 9:02 pm on Mar 16, 2026
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How about the part that he is a Democratic progressive and a critic of the Israeli government? It stands to reason that his views might be just a little skewed. You are searching out advocates for your argument.

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Again, he is not a bombthrower. Go ahead and enjoy your war.

Author: Chris94 (38417 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:05 pm on Mar 16, 2026
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From Axios: "He grossly overestimated his ability to topple the regime...

Author: Chris94 (38417 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:49 pm on Mar 16, 2026
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...short of sending in ground troops."

Trump has grown accustomed to doing what he wants and then quickly improvising if things go south. But this time, some in his inner circle have what one official called "buyer's remorse" — growing fears that attacking Iran was a mistake.
• A source close to the administration said some key officials around Trump were reluctant or wanted more time. "He ended up saying, 'I just want to do it,'" the source said. "He grossly overestimated his ability to topple the regime short of sending in ground troops."
• The source said Trump was "high on his own supply" after last summer's quick strikes in Iran and January's abduction of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro: "He saw multiple decisive quick victories with extraordinary military competence."


Link: https://www.axios.com/2026/03/16/trump-iran-war-escalation

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I guess waiting for the old guy to die of cancer & fomenting rebellion wasn’t fast enough. Dingbats.

Author: LanceManion (10046 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 8:53 pm on Mar 16, 2026
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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This was a massive and poorly thought out blunder.

Author: LanceManion (10046 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 8:33 pm on Mar 16, 2026
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The Israelis aren’t dumb so it makes you wonder how this was allowed to happen, unless the real endgame is to weaken the U.S. influence on the Middle East.

The American people won’t support this as a ground conflict. They are already against it as a minor incursion. Rs are cooked in the midterms bigly unless this gets wrapped up.


Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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This happened because DJT's two influencers sought to benefit from his attacks on Iran...Bibi

Author: TyroneIrish (23935 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:03 pm on Mar 16, 2026
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because he is an avowed Zionist who a) wants to drive all Arabs out of Palestine, and b) to at least use conflict to stay out of prison for corruption...and Vladimir for shifting U.S. military aid from Ukraine's defense to the Iranian offensive (see linked article "Why Russia is Watching Iran Burn")

Trump's deepest thoughts are for Big Macs and Golden Toilets...that's it.


Link: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/russia/why-russia-watching-iran-burn

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At this point, if we declare victory and leave, there is no guarantee that the Strait will open

Author: Chris94 (38417 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:38 pm on Mar 16, 2026
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The Iranians might just keep it closed to punish us. And who could blame them, really.

Opening that Strait would involve pushing Iranians off the hills that overlook it. A major invasion.


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At this point it seems like either concessionary bargaining or full escalation

Author: LanceManion (10046 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 8:43 pm on Mar 16, 2026
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Are the only real options. I think full escalation is a trap, or would require nukes to win (WW3), so really a negotiated concessionary exit is the only real viable option.

Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Nukes are off the table. Or should be.

Author: Chris94 (38417 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:50 pm on Mar 16, 2026
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Nothing here requires that, even if we decide to invade. That would change the world.

Then again...we have an irrational gunslinger moron at the helm.


Thread Level: 6

Agree, but given terrain, etc, ground war is a loser.

Author: LanceManion (10046 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 8:52 pm on Mar 16, 2026
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Whoever advised on this, if anyone did, is a strategic imbecile.

Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Yes it was. And Chris's post is right. There is no good way to end it. Should never have started.

Author: irish93 (1936 Posts - Joined: Nov 2, 2009)

Posted at 8:38 pm on Mar 16, 2026
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Agree. It’s a laudable goal BUT Iran is not Venezuela.

Author: LanceManion (10046 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 8:44 pm on Mar 16, 2026
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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It has always just been a matter of time until Trump stepped in it.

Author: conorlarkin (22398 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:56 pm on Mar 16, 2026
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He has spent 15 months wreaking domestic havoc and chaos.

He was overmatched in his first term when the pandemic came.

And now, his utter incompetence in foreign affairs and disdain for intelligence professionals has caught up. He was played by Netanyahu.

And now Trump has placed us in a pile of shite.


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